Heath Druzin
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How far can they reach? The limitation they have is that their ideas are broadly unpopular in America. but they're gaining influence, and they're gaining influence at the top of power. To many, it seems as though the theocrats are now on the doorstep of power. You've got the architect of Project 2025, Russ Vogt, who's been tapped to lead the White House Budget Office again.
How far can they reach? The limitation they have is that their ideas are broadly unpopular in America. but they're gaining influence, and they're gaining influence at the top of power. To many, it seems as though the theocrats are now on the doorstep of power. You've got the architect of Project 2025, Russ Vogt, who's been tapped to lead the White House Budget Office again.
So Vogt was actually caught on a secret recording saying he wants to, quote, rehabilitate Christian nationalism. And in a speech last year for a series called The Theology of American Statecraft, he said he wants to use biblical principles to instruct government. So he's been pretty explicit about his plans. Doug Wilson, who leads Christchurch, also spoke at that event.
So Vogt was actually caught on a secret recording saying he wants to, quote, rehabilitate Christian nationalism. And in a speech last year for a series called The Theology of American Statecraft, he said he wants to use biblical principles to instruct government. So he's been pretty explicit about his plans. Doug Wilson, who leads Christchurch, also spoke at that event.
So Vogt was actually caught on a secret recording saying he wants to, quote, rehabilitate Christian nationalism. And in a speech last year for a series called The Theology of American Statecraft, he said he wants to use biblical principles to instruct government. So he's been pretty explicit about his plans. Doug Wilson, who leads Christchurch, also spoke at that event.
You've got Fox News personality Pete Hegseth, who's been nominated to be secretary of defense. Well, he's a member of a church connected to Doug Wilson's Christian nationalist group. And he sends his kids to one of Doug Wilson's schools. And he's talked about his writings, too.
You've got Fox News personality Pete Hegseth, who's been nominated to be secretary of defense. Well, he's a member of a church connected to Doug Wilson's Christian nationalist group. And he sends his kids to one of Doug Wilson's schools. And he's talked about his writings, too.
You've got Fox News personality Pete Hegseth, who's been nominated to be secretary of defense. Well, he's a member of a church connected to Doug Wilson's Christian nationalist group. And he sends his kids to one of Doug Wilson's schools. And he's talked about his writings, too.
So I think we're seeing it right there in that what's sort of ingenious about the influence campaign that Doug Wilson, sitting in Moscow, Idaho, has orchestrated, is it's this kind of intangible influence, right? What he's created is an entire ecosystem from school to church to entertainment. So if you get sucked in, all you're hearing is that ideology. And I think that's really powerful.
So I think we're seeing it right there in that what's sort of ingenious about the influence campaign that Doug Wilson, sitting in Moscow, Idaho, has orchestrated, is it's this kind of intangible influence, right? What he's created is an entire ecosystem from school to church to entertainment. So if you get sucked in, all you're hearing is that ideology. And I think that's really powerful.
So I think we're seeing it right there in that what's sort of ingenious about the influence campaign that Doug Wilson, sitting in Moscow, Idaho, has orchestrated, is it's this kind of intangible influence, right? What he's created is an entire ecosystem from school to church to entertainment. So if you get sucked in, all you're hearing is that ideology. And I think that's really powerful.
My home state of Idaho has been sort of a lab for extremism in the last few years. So I think it actually can be kind of instructive as to what might be coming nationally. There's some examples where the legislature has passed laws that have really become blueprints for the rest of the country.
My home state of Idaho has been sort of a lab for extremism in the last few years. So I think it actually can be kind of instructive as to what might be coming nationally. There's some examples where the legislature has passed laws that have really become blueprints for the rest of the country.
My home state of Idaho has been sort of a lab for extremism in the last few years. So I think it actually can be kind of instructive as to what might be coming nationally. There's some examples where the legislature has passed laws that have really become blueprints for the rest of the country.
Idaho had an early anti-trans bill that was used as a blueprint for later anti-trans bills that passed in other states. They also recently passed a really restrictive library bill that basically leaves libraries open to lawsuits if they are found to have harmful materials available to minors.
Idaho had an early anti-trans bill that was used as a blueprint for later anti-trans bills that passed in other states. They also recently passed a really restrictive library bill that basically leaves libraries open to lawsuits if they are found to have harmful materials available to minors.
Idaho had an early anti-trans bill that was used as a blueprint for later anti-trans bills that passed in other states. They also recently passed a really restrictive library bill that basically leaves libraries open to lawsuits if they are found to have harmful materials available to minors.
Now, the definition of harmful materials is very much in the eye of the beholder and some possibilities there when it comes to books about people of color, about LGBTQ themes, things like that. And so I think what we're seeing in Idaho, it might be indicative of the kinds of pushes we're going to be seeing in this next administration.
Now, the definition of harmful materials is very much in the eye of the beholder and some possibilities there when it comes to books about people of color, about LGBTQ themes, things like that. And so I think what we're seeing in Idaho, it might be indicative of the kinds of pushes we're going to be seeing in this next administration.
Now, the definition of harmful materials is very much in the eye of the beholder and some possibilities there when it comes to books about people of color, about LGBTQ themes, things like that. And so I think what we're seeing in Idaho, it might be indicative of the kinds of pushes we're going to be seeing in this next administration.