Heather Cox Richardson

Yeah, yeah.

But you just said something there.

When they build it.

So one of the things that I find fascinating, and would love to hear you talk about this, because this is your medium and not mine, is the degree to which what Trump is doing is sort of the idea of virtual technology, that Russian concept of convincing people in the political realm of something that does not exist, that exists only in their minds and in the technology of television and radio and the internet.

To to base their lives on that, the degree to which we are looking at, you know, basically Trump running the country like a television show.

Well, so that's really interesting, thinking about the United States of America as a subsidiary of the Trump administration.

oligarchy, or not even.

It's a personalized company.

And thinking of it as a media subsidiary.

Basically, the United States is a media subsidiary.

That is, you just have to tell a good story.

And we know there's been a lot of stories coming out of the White House about how White House Chief of Staff Susie Wiles is running a daily TV show that Trump has to win at the end of every night.

you know, the degree to which he is manipulating reality through his posts on Truth Social and through the things he's saying, which change by the hour.

But there is, it seems like, the way you set that up, it does seem like there has to be a way to think through this that

enables people to create their own reality out of things that are actually based in reality, like you say, like the Iran war.

And I, you know, like you, I have said for years that once people woke up and realized what was going to happen, if in fact we put this kind of a presidency in place, that's when we would get our democracy back.

And I do think that is happening.

But I also think you just identified that it's not happening as quickly as it needs to as Congress is

on break until April 13th.

And Trump is in the White House contemplating sending our men and women into a ground war in Iran, which is already a disaster.