Heather Cox Richardson

21 to 23, right.

So they take over and then Harding dies of a heart attack in California and Calvin Coolidge takes over.

But he keeps them in power.

And the reason I mention those names is most people –

If they haven't heard of them, certainly you've heard of Hoover when he was president.

If you go and look at buildings in your town from the 1920s, they're going to have the name of Andrew Mellon on them because he was pretty big about making sure his name was on everything.

And what they did is they took the mechanics of the progressive era, the things that were supposed to be in place to protect people, the new organizations of the progressive era,

And they stocked them all with businessmen.

And this is when you get the era, and this is not actually what he said, but the idea that the business of America is business, and they rewrite Jesus Christ and the apostles to be, you know, Jesus to be a businessman who took 10 nobodies and turned them into... Yes, famously a businessman.

Yes, exactly.

So in that case, one of the things, points I think I made actually with you a year or so ago is that

Power isn't vested anywhere in the United States, really, except among the people.

But when it flows into Washington, it sloshes around.

And sometimes you get a really powerful president who just scoops it all up.

Sometimes you get a really powerful Congress who scoops it all up.

Sometimes you get a Supreme Court.

Sometimes you get the cabinet.

But in a moment when you have a president who is not able to manage the country in a coherent fashion, and there I'm being delicate,

You do have the opportunity to grab that power.

And, you know, I thought the Republicans in the Senate were going to do it.