Heather Cox Richardson

And that didn't really do a whole heck of a lot of good for winning an election because the people who were following the legacy media, even things like the Wall Street Journal, whose editorial page is quite far toward the right, voted for Kamala Harris.

And that didn't really do a whole heck of a lot of good for winning an election because the people who were following the legacy media, even things like the Wall Street Journal, whose editorial page is quite far toward the right, voted for Kamala Harris.

But the people who were only in that right-wing information sphere where the Democrats really weren't engaging went overwhelmingly for Trump because they believed in a world that didn't exist. And one of the ways that you create that information sphere is the cross-pollinization of the

But the people who were only in that right-wing information sphere where the Democrats really weren't engaging went overwhelmingly for Trump because they believed in a world that didn't exist. And one of the ways that you create that information sphere is the cross-pollinization of the

But the people who were only in that right-wing information sphere where the Democrats really weren't engaging went overwhelmingly for Trump because they believed in a world that didn't exist. And one of the ways that you create that information sphere is the cross-pollinization of the

different people in that liberal medium, not media, but liberal medium, people like you, people like me, and you can just go on down the list. And one of the things that I think the Democrats are going to need to do, and the opposition people who are opposing the rise of authoritarianism, are going to be to go on those smaller podcasts and

different people in that liberal medium, not media, but liberal medium, people like you, people like me, and you can just go on down the list. And one of the things that I think the Democrats are going to need to do, and the opposition people who are opposing the rise of authoritarianism, are going to be to go on those smaller podcasts and

different people in that liberal medium, not media, but liberal medium, people like you, people like me, and you can just go on down the list. And one of the things that I think the Democrats are going to need to do, and the opposition people who are opposing the rise of authoritarianism, are going to be to go on those smaller podcasts and

and to cross-pollinate them all and create our own reality-based media. I think we've got really smart people. I think they're doing incredibly good stuff. I think it's not clear yet that we have built our own media ecosystem in a way that the far right did.

and to cross-pollinate them all and create our own reality-based media. I think we've got really smart people. I think they're doing incredibly good stuff. I think it's not clear yet that we have built our own media ecosystem in a way that the far right did.

and to cross-pollinate them all and create our own reality-based media. I think we've got really smart people. I think they're doing incredibly good stuff. I think it's not clear yet that we have built our own media ecosystem in a way that the far right did.

Yeah, we should talk a little bit about that. I do think one of the things that I didn't throw into that mix I just described is the degree to which there is huge money to be made on the right by lying people. And Charlie Kirk came out of nowhere in 2016, fall of 2016, with a really hastily made and not just a crappy website that got attention by calling people like me.

Yeah, we should talk a little bit about that. I do think one of the things that I didn't throw into that mix I just described is the degree to which there is huge money to be made on the right by lying people. And Charlie Kirk came out of nowhere in 2016, fall of 2016, with a really hastily made and not just a crappy website that got attention by calling people like me.

Yeah, we should talk a little bit about that. I do think one of the things that I didn't throw into that mix I just described is the degree to which there is huge money to be made on the right by lying people. And Charlie Kirk came out of nowhere in 2016, fall of 2016, with a really hastily made and not just a crappy website that got attention by calling people like me.

And I was on that first professor watch list when it first came out. you know, anti-American and all that. And I know where he got my name, which was from a, I mean, I don't know. I assume I know where he got my name. And it had nothing to do with my teaching or anything else. It was really a way to dox somebody essentially before we had doxing.

And I was on that first professor watch list when it first came out. you know, anti-American and all that. And I know where he got my name, which was from a, I mean, I don't know. I assume I know where he got my name. And it had nothing to do with my teaching or anything else. It was really a way to dox somebody essentially before we had doxing.

And I was on that first professor watch list when it first came out. you know, anti-American and all that. And I know where he got my name, which was from a, I mean, I don't know. I assume I know where he got my name. And it had nothing to do with my teaching or anything else. It was really a way to dox somebody essentially before we had doxing.

And that's a part of our media, the idea that politics is a reality show and you can get money and you can get clicks for being as outrageous as possible. You know, I hope that that

And that's a part of our media, the idea that politics is a reality show and you can get money and you can get clicks for being as outrageous as possible. You know, I hope that that

And that's a part of our media, the idea that politics is a reality show and you can get money and you can get clicks for being as outrageous as possible. You know, I hope that that