Heather du Plessis-Allan

Yeah, yeah.

So they basically, but what needs to happen is we need to get Minister of Finance working through the issue now.

We actually hope to, we're trying to say whether it's required or not required.

Well, if it's not required, obviously, but either way, the point I think is of,

is one that we are very committed to, which is we need to make sure we've got full transparency on it before pre-food so that every party understands it.

So it's not, unfortunately, it's not that super exciting.

In what way?

Honestly, the Parliament is his domain and it's up to the Speaker to make all those calls.

I'd just stay away from that stuff.

I've got enough other things going on.

It's your diary full of it.

Dance card is full.

I'm not really giving a lot of thought to those sorts of issues.

Yeah, I mean, our intention, our view very strongly is you shouldn't have unelected members of councils, you know, unelected staff or unelected members actually on committees voting on that stuff.

So we're stopping all of that.

Yeah, but just remember we're going to knock regional councils on the head as part of the RMA.

So ECAN's gone.

The regional councils have been taken out as part of the RMA.

Well, again, there'll be what's called a unitary council.

So we want to make sure the principle is if we go deeper, if we have to, if it's not going to get stopped.