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Heather Long

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Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

And I think, um,

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

at the press conference last week, you heard Chair Powell talk about the fact that these distortions that we have because of the government shutdown mean that, you know, some of these data have to be taken with grains of salt going forward.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

And so I think this whole, the jobs report and the inflation report yesterday, all of these things have kind of added to this discussion that we've been having this year about

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

of BLS data, government data, and how reliable it's been, the big revisions that we saw over the summer.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

All of these things are kind of adding to this whole question about how useful the data is and how reliable it is as the Fed faces this very difficult policy outlook.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

Well, looking into 2026, so far, it looks a lot like 2025 in the sense of, you know, the rich consumers continue to spend and continue to power the economy and the AI boom is contributing to that.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

But it remains a K-shaped economy.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

And I've been calling this the Costco Christmas.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

I think what we're seeing in our data is just huge growth in spending on the wholesale clubs and the discount retailers, whether it's the Amazons, Costco, Sam's Club, BJ's, you pick your favorite one.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

That's where people are spending their money trying to stretch their dollars.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

That's where the middle class is.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

And so they're still spending.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

But I wouldn't say you can see the cutback on dining out and travel and the fun stuff.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

I think this idea that we are in a low-fire, low-hire environment.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

I think Fed officials take a lot of comfort in that, that we aren't seeing a whole bunch of layoffs.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

But if you are a person who is looking for a job, there are a lot of signs that it is very, very difficult.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

And as we see the unemployment rate tick up and we just

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

understand, especially in my reporting, I hear it, that it's just really hard to find a job.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

That really makes me worried for people, their well-being, and also just what we were talking about, consumer spending, which has been such a big, important part of the overall economic story.

Marketplace All-in-One
The 2025 consumer sentiment rollercoaster

Happy holidays.