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Helen Lewis

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The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

Why?

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

So many other things that you would never have thought would come back have come back.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

This idea that there are sort of subhumans, you know, you find them all that so often in the kind of right-wing and non-discourse on things like X.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

I mean, that's why it's appealing, because it's saying if you are alive today and unhappy, it's because of modernity.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

And it may be any other number of other things, but it gives, you know, it specifically addresses itself to people who are alienated by society in whatever way it might be and latches onto that.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

You know, who does someone like Andrew Tate appeal to, to go back to the kind of broader manosphere?

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

It's actually young teenage boys, right?

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

It's actually at that period of age where you're getting all these messages about how men are patriarchs and toxic masculinity and blah, blah, blah.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

But you are maybe small and frightened and you don't really know if you're going to have any friends or girls are going to want to date you.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

It preys on people at the most insecure moments of their life.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

For a long time, the men's rights internet was specifically aimed itself to recent divorcees who were also absolutely primed to hear some thoughts about how women are pretty awful.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

And I think that is really sad because that's the bit where I find these people quite predatory if they are taking people who have got genuine personal problems and supplying a kind of ready-made bad guy for them to fixate onto, which is probably not going to go anywhere.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

What can you do about these things if you think that the world is rigged against you?

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

This is funny because they all believe very much in having agency.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

But if you feel that the world is this gynocracy...

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

then, like, how?

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

How are you supposed to navigate that?

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

You just keep consuming more of their content and kind of wallowing in your own stew.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

Helen Andrews writes for Compact magazine.

The Ezra Klein Show
The New Right’s Very Old Vision of Men

And the argument with that, it starts with Larry Summers being outed from president of Harvard in the 2000s.