Helen Lewis

Scott Yenna wants to, for example...

reinstitute male-only military colleges.

He thinks that having women in military training colleges, again, affects these kind of very manly, vigorous, slightly bullying standards, and they make everything a bit of an HR bureaucratic nightmare.

But I think you've got to think about it equivalent to the campaign to end Roe versus Wade, which, while it was a kind of stretch goal of the religious right for decades, in the interim, what they did was make it much, much harder to have an abortion in the states where they controlled the state houses, right?

You know, imposing regulation and legislation.

There's stuff in Project 2025, for example, about making it harder to produce and distribute abortion pills.

You find ways that are small tweaks by imposing burdens on people that you just nudge and nudge and nudge towards your desired end state.

As you say, I think it's relatively unlikely that J.D.

Vance is going to go in front of the American people in 2028 and say,

Guys, vote for me.

Well, half of you.

Or women, enjoy voting for the last time.

You won't get to again.

Because it's wildly unpopular.

In the same way that actually complete and total abortion bans are unpopular.

But the one thing you would say about the American political system is unfortunately it is very friendly to minoritarian ideas.

It is easy to capture.

And for people who have got things that wouldn't pass a referendum to nonetheless smuggle them through by controlling.

bits of government bureaucracy that no one pays attention to by controlling state houses, for example.

So that's how I see this agenda going forward.