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Helen Toner

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
111 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

So most software that we use is written line by line.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

So programmers type one line, they type the next line, they understand how the code works.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

That's really not how we build AI.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

People sometimes say AI is a black box.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

What that really means is when we open up the black box, we look inside the system, we find a huge amount of numbers.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

It's actually trillions of numbers in these modern systems.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

And so we can see those numbers, they all get multiplied and added together to go from a question to an answer.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

So we don't know what does that mean?

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

What is what is actually going on?

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

How do we put safeguards on?

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

How do we shape that in ways that we want?

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

We have some some rudimentary methods, but the companies are really kind of making it up as they go along.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

Yeah, so this comes back to the part where- You all have seen that word in the headlines, right?

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

Yeah, and it comes back to the way that AI is designed, not just to imitate human texts, but also to produce answers humans like.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

So really when they're being developed, they'll be given examples of someone asked for a recipe, here are two possible responses, which did the human prefer?

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

And so sometimes it's really helpful to be trained to produce answers humans like.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

It means instead of giving you a wall of text, they'll give you some bullet points or it helps them learn what a good explanation is, you know, what a human will find useful.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

But it turns out that if you're training on what humans like, humans also like to be complimented.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

They like to be told, you know, that was an insightful question or that's such a good observation.

The Oprah Podcast
The Dark Side of AI Chatbots: Warning Signs, Risks, and Reality

And something that has been happening over the past year or two is some of the companies building AI chatbots have realized that can actually go way too far.