Hillary McVeigh

And it's often, it's always, even as you're just sharing, of course, you're helping women now with energy work and with connection to their wombs and connection to themselves.

now after 30 years how beautiful and so important especially as women exactly as you said it's like we're so conditioned to be like who do I need to be for you what mask do I need to wear exactly and like how can I contort myself and I think I remember like you'd be on a date or something and it's like I will be your best date you've ever had in your life like what do I need to do for you to love me like and it's so subconscious yeah

And you mentioned this and I really want to dive deeper because I had a really similar experience of this self-forgiveness journey.

I remember being in a ceremony and moments in my life of every single time I basically gave away my power and to the smallest things of like wanting to be validated externally.

And at one point it took me through me walking through a nightclub being like...

who's looking at me just like so much ego but so much just like insecurity it actually is and it took me through all these moments and being like okay see this and that's not you but so much forgiveness to that self that felt like she couldn't say no or felt like she had to be something she's not and yeah can you please speak about how important it is to truly see and forgive that parts of ourselves because i think a lot of people can hold a lot of shame

This is exactly, I, babe, we're like the same person.

I did this exactly in a room here and then I did that prayer.

I was hysterically crying saying that prayer over and over being like, I'm sorry.

Thank you.

I love you.

Because this is the whole thing, even just what we were speaking about, the controllable and conditionable, like by you showing and by you like brushing up to the limiting thoughts and being like, no, we're moving past this.

That's the ultimate.

That's the expander.

That is the thing.

And so we're so afraid to, like, people can be so afraid, like, that if you start to feel it, you're going to be in it forever.

I get it.

It's scary because it's uncomfortable.

I used to suppress so much.

I used to wear it as a badge of honor of being non-emotional.