His Eminence Cardinal Timothy Dolan

We expect that every parish has a finance council that would help the pastor stay accountable when it comes to fiscal matters.

We set up by law that every parish would have trustees.

Within the archdiocese, Clark, I would have a priest council.

I would have a council of women religious, the nuns.

I'd have a deacon's council.

I would have a finance council.

I would have a Catholic charities council.

I would have people who are skilled in finances, Catholic charities, education, marriage and family.

All of those, and even business stuff when it comes to insurance, personnel matters, legal matters.

I trust those people.

Darn it, I'm blessed with a great group of leaders who advise me.

They bring things to my attention.

They have heard me say, and they've heard the church say, you shouldn't have the final say till you've let the people you trust and with whom you collaborate have their say.

I take that very seriously, Clark.

I presume that's one of the things you would coach business leaders to do as well.

They like a leader who's decisive.

They like a leader who's energetic.

They like a leader who's ubiquitous.

They like a leader who listens, but they also like a leader who collaborates and who trusts other people.

I try my best to be that.