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Holly Bond

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Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

Yeah, when I talked to my friends, when I told them that I was going to do this, they all were shocked and they all laughed at me because I was a recruiter 20 years ago and there was elements that I really liked about it, but there was a lot that I didn't and I left. And I left because in recruiting, we're dealing with people.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

Yeah, when I talked to my friends, when I told them that I was going to do this, they all were shocked and they all laughed at me because I was a recruiter 20 years ago and there was elements that I really liked about it, but there was a lot that I didn't and I left. And I left because in recruiting, we're dealing with people.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

People with families, people with emotions, and people are complex, right? At the end of the day, what we always have to remember as recruiters, people are very complex. And the parent company of my company is Royer Thompson. And Royer Thompson's been around almost 30 years. And Kim West is the president of Royer Thompson. And about seven years ago, she bought the company and she rebranded it.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

People with families, people with emotions, and people are complex, right? At the end of the day, what we always have to remember as recruiters, people are very complex. And the parent company of my company is Royer Thompson. And Royer Thompson's been around almost 30 years. And Kim West is the president of Royer Thompson. And about seven years ago, she bought the company and she rebranded it.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

She breathed a new, more innovative breath into it. And they're spectacular. The process is very filled with empathy and curiosity. And I have known Kim for years. And Kim came to me and asked me if I would open a new division of Royer Thompson, open a new, basically a new company. Royer Thompson does the C-suite, board and academia.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

She breathed a new, more innovative breath into it. And they're spectacular. The process is very filled with empathy and curiosity. And I have known Kim for years. And Kim came to me and asked me if I would open a new division of Royer Thompson, open a new, basically a new company. Royer Thompson does the C-suite, board and academia.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And when they were successfully conducting the searches, they would inevitably be asked to work on other searches, executive directors, senior managers. So that intermediate manager to more of a VP role. So we play in that space. And when she came and asked me, I said no. And I actually said no for almost two years because I remembered what it was like when I was a recruiter before.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And when they were successfully conducting the searches, they would inevitably be asked to work on other searches, executive directors, senior managers. So that intermediate manager to more of a VP role. So we play in that space. And when she came and asked me, I said no. And I actually said no for almost two years because I remembered what it was like when I was a recruiter before.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And many recruitment companies work almost like real estate agents here in Canada, where they're paid 100% commission. So recruiters, not only do they go out and get the business, so they have to find the client. And when they find the client, that doesn't mean the client's going to give them a search. So they find the client and they have to network and build that.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And many recruitment companies work almost like real estate agents here in Canada, where they're paid 100% commission. So recruiters, not only do they go out and get the business, so they have to find the client. And when they find the client, that doesn't mean the client's going to give them a search. So they find the client and they have to network and build that.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

When they do get a search, they place candidates and then they send the invoice and they probably get 50 to 60% of that invoice, whatever the company allows them to get. So it's very commission-based and you can make a lot of money. When I did it 20 years ago, when I was leaving, I was making a lot of money. It's very compelling, right?

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

When they do get a search, they place candidates and then they send the invoice and they probably get 50 to 60% of that invoice, whatever the company allows them to get. So it's very commission-based and you can make a lot of money. When I did it 20 years ago, when I was leaving, I was making a lot of money. It's very compelling, right?

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And the more you do it, the more network you have, the bigger network is, and the easier it is to do the searches. I remember one day I was in my office speaking to this man. He was, I remember it exactly. He was 42 years old. He did not have his degree. And at that time, I did not have my degree. I was close, but I didn't have it.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And the more you do it, the more network you have, the bigger network is, and the easier it is to do the searches. I remember one day I was in my office speaking to this man. He was, I remember it exactly. He was 42 years old. He did not have his degree. And at that time, I did not have my degree. I was close, but I didn't have it.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And he didn't have his degree and he was working with his company for over 20 years and he was let go. They did a restructuring and he was let go. He had a wife and a daughter and every morning they would go off to school and work. He had been traveling 80% of the time for his work. So he was getting depressed and anxious and he was frozen. He was frozen, like in a panic.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And he didn't have his degree and he was working with his company for over 20 years and he was let go. They did a restructuring and he was let go. He had a wife and a daughter and every morning they would go off to school and work. He had been traveling 80% of the time for his work. So he was getting depressed and anxious and he was frozen. He was frozen, like in a panic.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

He didn't know what to do. He's in my office and he gets very emotional. And then I talked to him about how to find a job. I was going through all the steps. This is what you're going to do. And he was leaving and he said, I feel so much better. Thank you so much. He said, but I know tomorrow morning I'm going to feel like rubbish. It's this wave of panic I can't explain.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

He didn't know what to do. He's in my office and he gets very emotional. And then I talked to him about how to find a job. I was going through all the steps. This is what you're going to do. And he was leaving and he said, I feel so much better. Thank you so much. He said, but I know tomorrow morning I'm going to feel like rubbish. It's this wave of panic I can't explain.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And I said, then you call me every morning. For 10 minutes, we will go over what you're going to do that day. And he called me every day for 10 minutes. And he ended up getting three job offers, none from me or my firm, but he had three job offers. And he wrote the president of my company and said how much I helped him. However, he was in my office for an hour and a half.

Chief Change Officer
#303 Holly Bond: Fixing Recruiting Without Losing the Human

And I said, then you call me every morning. For 10 minutes, we will go over what you're going to do that day. And he called me every day for 10 minutes. And he ended up getting three job offers, none from me or my firm, but he had three job offers. And he wrote the president of my company and said how much I helped him. However, he was in my office for an hour and a half.

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