Holly Buckley
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first heard Jan 2025
last heard Jun 2025
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And so I think we're going to see an easier M&A climate, but I don't think it's going to be a reversion to the pre-lien account days. I think it's still going to be tough. I think there's also a good chance, a very good chance that the new HSR rules stay. And so there's a new HSR rule that's kind of floating right now in terms of we're not quite sure what's going to happen with it.
But I think our intelligence is that it's likely to proceed as is. And the new HSR rule puts about four times the burden on respondents than the prior one. So there's a lot more information needed and a much higher burden and expense related to it. And so, again, I think we're going to see a slight increase a slightly easier climate, but it's not going to be back to the old days.
You know, I'll say there's an area I'm focused on, but I won't say I'm excited about it. And that's kind of the distress deals that we were just speaking about. I think it would be improper to say I was excited about it.
There's an analytical excitement about it in terms of they're an interesting type of transaction to work on as an attorney, but it's never exciting to see what's happened to some of these businesses that folks obviously had a lot of hope behind and put a lot of energy into. But I think there's also a lot of opportunity in the distressed space as some platforms have run into issues as opportunities
for other acquirers to potentially bring them in to see some synergies with existing platforms that they have. We just worked on the CareMax transaction, which closed in the last week, which was a very interesting transaction. And I think there's going to be a fair amount of activity
Thanks, Scott. And as always, thanks for the discussion. I mean, I think I would love to say I have a perfect system and that I'm great at this. And I think as many can probably identify with the life is cyclical. And so at some points you do much better and at other points you're probably sprawling and not as focused as you should be.
But I think within different categories, there's different items and they need to be managed in different ways, right? So I'm both a practicing lawyer, that's kind of what I should be spending the majority of my time on. And I'm also the leader of the healthcare group. And so within both of those areas, There's the areas that I need to focus on very deliberately and continuously.
And for the lawyer side, it's clients. For the department side, it's people. So very similar. The most important thing in both of my disciplines are the people. And on the lawyer side, if you don't have clients, you don't have a business. And on the department side, if you don't have great people, you don't have a business.
And so making sure that the people are top front almost at all times is just critical. But then there's the strategy side of things. And as both a practicing lawyer as well as a department leader, it's really important to take the time out to build strategy for the department side. It's growth. It's how do we want to grow? Where do we need to grow? And how are we going to execute on that?
And in order to build that plan, you really need that focused downtime. And I frankly find flights very helpful for this. I find as sad as it may be, vacation's a good time for this, to be able to take some quieter time when there's less going on to actually focus on it.
On the lawyer side, building your strategy around business development, personal development, where you want to develop skills, same thing. You've got to take that quiet time to think it through. and put a plan in place and then revisit it periodically. Within both of the disciplines, there's also kind of the ongoing things you need to execute on.
So there's the constant focus, but then there's the need to focus on execution on things like business development, recruiting, billing, focusing on finances, and that's things that need continued attention, but less deliberate and continuous attention. and kind of the clients and the team items.
And then there's all of the other admin that just kind of, I wouldn't say it gets in the way, it's totally critical, but it takes a huge amount of time. And for that, I think the key is figuring out systems to both keep everything on track, but also keep the things off my plate that shouldn't be on my plate.
And I think the final thought, and this is one that I'm stealing from one of the senior associates I work with who's very, very smart, is the idea of... You have a lot of balls you need to keep in the air, but there's only one glass ball, and the glass ball is your family, and that's the ball you can't break.
And so you keep all the balls in the air and everything on track, but you make sure that when that glass ball starts to fall that you're there to catch it, and that's your number one priority and focus whenever it needs to be. So happy to chat through any of those, but those are the high-level thoughts.
Yeah, I think the one other thing I just reflected on is the importance of having a plan. And the plan needs to be living, breathing, and moving, but there's a lot of things that come your way from candidates to opportunities to shift and change. And I think unless you've got that distilled plan to run things through the filter of, you can end up very lost.
And I think it took me a little bit of time to come up with a plan that I liked, but I developed a kind of strategic recruiting plan
and growth plan that i i vetted with others who whose input was critical but now with each thing that comes in i'm able to run it through that filter and it and the plan changes the plan evolves it's not set in stone but i do think it's really important to have a strong sense of of what you're trying to achieve and how you want to achieve it um versus you know uh
flying by the seat of your pants, if you will. So I do think it's important to spend the time to do that. But I really enjoyed the discussion and the points that you picked up on.
Thank you, Scott.
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