Holly Cairns

Now, we had that review three years afterwards and it found that there are still so many issues with the legislation.

And I think we all remember the national debate that this country had on around the time of the repealed eighth referendum.

And I know from canvassing during that campaign, from.

Listening to radio programmes and television debates, a lot of people voted yes for those people who were forced to travel because they needed a termination for medical reasons.

So many people voted yes because of those particular stories.

And still today...

Years and years later, those women are still being forced to travel.

These are some of the most heartbreaking stories.

And I was, like so many of your listeners, I'm sure, really moved to hear Denise Whitmore speaking on your programme about her and her family's experience of this.

But these are the pregnancies, the babies that are so wanted, that families are so excited about having.

And then they get this devastating news.

And...

Like I raised this with the Taoiseach and I was really appreciative of his response because he recognises there's a massive issue here and a gap in the legislation and the people are suffering unnecessarily.

But I was struck by one thing he said, and that was we need to allow people to be able to tell their stories, that that's really important to create that space.

And I have to say.

I think we've heard enough of these stories.

It's so honourable that people come forward and tell these heartbreaking stories to try and ultimately protect somebody else from having to go through it.

How many more people do we need to come forward and tell their stories of the suffering, the heartbreak, the travel home, all of the different elements of it?

And so I'm bringing forward this legislation to finally address that.

And what TDs will be voting on is not...