Holly Wainwright

But the guys themselves are not scary.

I just found every one of them, and so did Brent, to be sad and pathetic.

I do want to pick a little bit.

I mean, I know that you worship the ground that Louis Theroux walks on.

You always have.

I do question, and I'm saying a bit of this commentary, whether his documentary style, which has always been, I stand back, I record, I'm kind of there and I'm kind of, I'm in it.

So I am the content, but I'm a bit separate.

I'm not here to debate.

It is.

And I don't know if it works in this modern world because every single one of these guys uses him for content.

They live stream his interviews.

They get their audiences to feed them questions they should ask him.

They mock him.

They bully him.

I mean, that's not, you know, I think Louis Theroux can handle that.

And towards the end, HS Tiki Toki's mother points this out to Louis.

She says, you're using my son for content.

Yeah, and you're making money from my son and so he's going to do the same to you.

Wait, sorry, his mum's involved.

Well, this is one of the things that obviously as a mum got me quite upset.