Holly Wainwright

My mornings look so different but that was my life for years and whenever I see mums at Mamma Mia who have just come back from mat leave or they've just come back from their second one in particular, the look on their faces.

Yes.

I've lived a day.

They have lived a day by the time they get here.

I was listening to Stacey Hicks, who was one of our hosts on Parenting Out Loud, and Gemma Bath, host on True Crime Conversations in the kitchen this morning, and it sounded exactly like what Claire was just discussing.

It was just like, and then she wouldn't put her shoes on and then she's decided that toast is the devil and then like and you're just like it takes me all back because my days are so different now.

Like it's so weird.

But for me I have different routines depending on where I am, right, because I am in different places.

Do you like that, having different ones?

Well, I do.

It depends.

On Monday mornings I get up at five because I have to drive or train in.

So that's a really early day.

And this week that was particularly hard because we are renovating our bathroom.

and turning a laundry into a bathroom in our house so we have no toilet and no shower so this Monday morning at 5am I was going to the toilet in a port-a-loo in the front garden in the pitch black and then having a shower outside in the cold in the pitch black at 5am and I was like this is not what they meant by opening shift this is not what it is treading on on snails and anyway so you'd rather do that than just skip the shower for a day

Well, I'm a morning shower person.

So I don't shower before bed, but I shower every morning to like wake myself up.

And I think I would feel on a day when I don't have to go anywhere and do anything, I can leave that shower till later.

Maybe I'll do it after I exercise or whatever.

But on a day when I've got to do something, it's like.