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Mamamia Out Loud

What We Did Before 9am

13 Mar 2026

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Chapter 1: What predictions are made about the Oscars and celebrity appearances?

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You're listening to a Mamma Mia podcast.

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9.68 - 33.045 Holly Wainwright

Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia Out Loud. I was just noticed that it's Friday the 13th. I was all like very woot about everything and very upbeat and now I'm like, oh, how is it the 13th on a Friday? We don't like that, do we? It was Friday the 13th last month too. Oh no, something's happening. This is a haunted year. It's a haunted year. Oh, yeah.

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33.105 - 43.976 Holly Wainwright

Anyway, we will endeavour to keep the demons at bay on today's show. My name is Holly Wainwright. My name is Em Burnham. In the script it says my name's Jessie Stephens, but I'm not. I'm Claire Stephens.

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43.996 - 64.84 Holly Wainwright

Well, hopefully out louders, already today you have heard our Jessie Stephens because we're dropping this on a Friday, as we always do, but you also already got a little triere, which was Jessie Stephens' story all about the birth of her twins. So if you haven't listened to that and you're interested, please do. If you're not interested, that's fine. That's absolutely fine.

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We're here. It was more for her, really.

67.585 - 71.231 Holly Wainwright

That's why she wanted to get it off her chest. She wanted to yell. She wanted to share.

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Some stuff went down and the outlouders need to know.

74.477 - 82.35 Holly Wainwright

Good point. Anyway, here on our twin free show, except not because Claire's with us. Anyway, here's what's made our agenda for today.

82.33 - 91.579 Clare Stephens

Good news for the emotional girlies like myself. We no longer need to listen to the boy bosses of the world because it actually is okay to cry at work.

Chapter 2: Is crying at work becoming more acceptable in corporate culture?

92.059 - 92.48 Clare Stephens

Or is it?

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And how do you implement an opening shift in your morning routine to just make your day a bit more organised and calmer?

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101.829 - 121.71 Holly Wainwright

Recommendations are going to include a TV show that everyone is telling me to watch and now including I am. Claire has an excellent book. And I might just have the perfect background watch for Saturday morning cleaning. You know how you've got to do chores on Saturday mornings? Do you? Some of us do, Em. Some of us do.

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I love having the TV on and then folding washing, but I'm really watching the TV.

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126.396 - 145.99 Holly Wainwright

That's a vibe. I've got you. I've got you with my reco today. But first, look, it's the Oscars on Monday. We're going to do a special little Oscar segment in the Monday show on Monday afternoon. But if you want to sound like you know what you're talking about over the weekend when you're hanging out with people, we have some very stupid predictions for you about what's going to happen.

147.193 - 165.992 Holly Wainwright

And you can take them on. You can hold them against us on Monday afternoon. It's fine. We don't care. First one that I predict. Everyone... at the Oscars party will be dressed really boring. You know there's no colour anymore. Everyone's just wearing black, beige, whatever, until the Vanity Fair party when everyone will be naked. So annoying.

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I wish they dressed like that for the actual Oscars. I do think naked is encroaching on formal events. I think we could have some nudity. I hope so.

Chapter 3: How can an 'opening shift' improve your morning routine?

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Yeah.

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175.018 - 189.658 Holly Wainwright

It makes things more interesting, especially if it's the guys. Like at the Grammys and Justin Bieber's just performing in his undies. Maybe we could see that from Chalamet. Maybe he just tries to claw back his reputation by turning up on the red carpet in orange boxes and a bow tie.

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We already saw his bottom in his movie.

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191.741 - 205.602 Holly Wainwright

It's true, we did. Everyone will be very, very thin. We already know that, right? We are in the era of the skinny, skinniness, so we'll be like naked and skinny skinned. I predict that Kylie won't walk with Timothy because the vibes are bad now. I think she's not going to do that.

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206.283 - 221.873 Clare Stephens

You know what one of my Kylie predictions is, is that because the F1 movie is also nominated, Lewis Hamilton's going to come with Kim Kardashian. To the Vanity Fair party for sure. For sure. With his plus one Kim Kardashian and the sisters will have to sit next to each other.

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Okay, my question about Lewis Hamilton, is he associated with F1?

227.048 - 237.562 Holly Wainwright

He's a producer on that film. I didn't know that. And that film is one of the best Oscar nominations because, you know, now they have a longer list so that they can pretend that they're being inclusive to movies that people actually want to go and watch.

237.582 - 242.891 Clare Stephens

And he did pretty well in Ferrari last week, so he's feeling good about himself. You might be. I'd be right about that.

243.052 - 245.338 Holly Wainwright

Lewis and Kim could be doing that.

Chapter 4: What are the latest trends and predictions for the Oscars?

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Yes. I think he'll be tall and sexy. Probably go with his mum because that's his vibe, very Leo. So even though he's bloody dating that girl. Some supermodel person. Yeah, who's got naughty parents. It's not her fault.

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273.331 - 273.992 Clare Stephens

Yeah.

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274.353 - 278.658 Unknown

I guess. She just wanted her university degree. College admissions scandal.

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278.678 - 290.993 Holly Wainwright

I remember that. Yes. She was one of the college and he's dating her. Yeah, she's really pretty. Maybe he'll get a new haircut like Margot. Because Margot has like signalled Wuthering Heights is done with a bob. She chopped it off.

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291.013 - 292.694 Clare Stephens

She chopped off Wuthering Heights.

292.714 - 304.866 Holly Wainwright

Jacob might shave his head. We're going to get to shave his head soon. Rose Byrne obviously is also nominated. She's not going to win, no offence, Rose Byrne. I think you're second in line as to probability. But Jessie Buckley.

304.906 - 308.71 Clare Stephens

I hope there's no lizard convention happening. That's right.

308.75 - 315.517 Holly Wainwright

Because her husband, when she won, was off buying a bearded dragon or something. Some reptile that shouldn't be a pet. Yeah, he definitely shouldn't.

Chapter 5: How does the community support bald men on Reddit?

315.877 - 325.61 Holly Wainwright

He might have been eaten by it but he definitely won't be there and that may serve him right. Conan O'Brien is hosting. I predict he'll be funny but no one near as funny as Nikki Glaser at the Golden Globes.

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No, because Nikki crosses the line and that's what I want. I hope Conan O'Brien makes some current jokes.

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332.539 - 333.48 Clare Stephens

Some ballet jokes maybe.

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333.5 - 334.481 Holly Wainwright

Some ballet jokes.

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334.501 - 335.222 Clare Stephens

I need him to acknowledge that.

335.242 - 356.029 Holly Wainwright

I reckon we might get ballet jokes but I reckon we won't get politics. I think we won't get politics and I also think they're going to be like super happy on the censor button. After everything that's happened recently with that, it'll be like giving Kyle and Jackie O a run for their money on the like, can't say that, can't say that. What do you mean I sell? Very true. No war. Lots of that.

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Yeah, yeah. I reckon, so my predictions, and I will caveat this by saying I'm going off vibes only because I've only seen a handful of the movies. So is everybody. So I'm only going off vibes. One battle after another is going to win Best Picture, but that pisses me off because I've already seen that movie. I haven't seen that movie, but I've seen that movie.

379.138 - 384.645 Holly Wainwright

Oh, I see what you mean. Yes. Like you're like that's a movie, the type of which I have already seen.

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Paul Thomas Anderson. Correct. And even the title's boring. It's like one battle after another. Like you know what I mean? But it is true.

Chapter 6: What recommendations are made for TV shows and books?

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Like you have a battle and then there will be another one. I guess. They're playing it safe. I just like Sinners needs that like originality. It trumps it every single time. I do think Timmy won't win Best Actor. He needs a bit of Leo where you've just got to be patient, mate.

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411.612 - 428.551 Holly Wainwright

Leo, like, he's going to sit there, Leo, again. See, one of the people I always feel sorry for is when you're in the awards circuit, but you're definitely not going to win. So, for example, Emma Stone is nominated this year. It's not her year. No one's even pretending it's her year. She's already won it, so that's fine. But, like, she still has to go. She still has to put the dress on.

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428.971 - 434.117 Holly Wainwright

But no one thinks, not even one person, not even Paul the Dead Octopus thinks that she might win.

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434.197 - 435.178 Clare Stephens

Not even Emma herself. No.

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435.579 - 438.582 Holly Wainwright

So it's like, Leo must be feeling a bit like that because he's not going to win.

438.562 - 444.25 Clare Stephens

Yeah, and he hasn't been attending some of them. But no, I think Michael B. Jordan is going to win Best Actor.

444.431 - 461.277 Holly Wainwright

Can I tell you that I asked the maths people at one of those proper Hollywood people things, said Michael B. Jordan by a whisker. Apparently they crunched all the numbers, blah, blah, maths nerds, blah, blah. Michael B. Jordan, 33.2 and Timothy, 31.3. So he's just going to pip him.

461.297 - 469.472 Clare Stephens

Well, my unpopular opinion is that he actually should have been nominated twice because he played twins. And he played them both very well. Twins are different people.

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They are. And he played them like two different people.

Chapter 7: How do personal experiences shape morning routines?

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One was hot.

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473.82 - 489.005 Holly Wainwright

Yeah. One was hot. One had dimples. The other one didn't have dimples. I don't know if that's true. Imagine if they had done that, nominated him twice. It was like Michael B. Jordan for his role in Sinners and Michael B. Jordan for his role in Sinners. On fair advantage but also maybe fair advantage.

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489.085 - 506.771 Clare Stephens

I have a next year prediction. So I don't think Timothy will win this year. He was nominated last year as well. He was. It's sad, but it's fine. But I do think Kylie Jenner will win next year for Best Supporting Actress in Charlie XCX's mockumentary, The Moment. Have you seen that yet? Yes, I have.

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506.811 - 510.497 Holly Wainwright

Because I saw a clip of that yesterday in which Kylie Jenner was excellent.

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510.517 - 523.857 Clare Stephens

I've heard. She's excellent. She's really good. She's better than anyone else. Is it a good movie? It's really good. I really enjoyed it. It's been 50-50, similar to Wuthering Heights. People either love it or hate it. Alexander SkarsgƄrd in it. He's really good.

523.917 - 525.521 Holly Wainwright

But Kylie Jenner still has a show.

Chapter 8: What insights are shared about the impact of hair loss on men's identity?

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I'd watch him do anything.

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I want to see the rupture between Timothy and Kylie when Kylie gets an award and Timothy doesn't.

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532.919 - 548.769 Holly Wainwright

After being trapped by Timothy. So great. My last is K-pop Demon Hunters, right? Oh, yes. So they're going to win the best animated feature, but they're also performing. which I just love because they're cartoons, but also a real band. So it really confuses people, particularly the old people in the crowd are just like, I don't understand.

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549.21 - 569.128 Holly Wainwright

And speaking of Leo, what's funny to me as a Gen Xer is when you see him in award shows now, he looks more and more like Jack Nicholson did at award shows when I was young. So he's like the old guy now, like just making jokes and leaning back in his chair like, ah! And it's like we've watched him go from like cool young guy to sad old guy. He doesn't know what K-pop is. It's confronting.

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569.148 - 577.75 Holly Wainwright

He was there at the Golden Globes. He was like, the K-pop people, I don't get it. Anyway, they will also make sure that no demons infiltrate the event, which is going to be handy.

579.35 - 599.378 Clare Stephens

We've all had a cry at work. So whether it's in the bathroom, in the car park, on the train home, that little part of the corner in the office that no one really goes to or calls the crying corner. However, there's been a general consensus that crying at work publicly in front of your manager or colleagues is unprofessional. Until now.

599.798 - 617.845 Clare Stephens

Robert Half conducted a survey about crying in the workplace, very important work, and they surveyed more than 2,000 C-suite leaders. 44% of CFOs say that occasional workplace cry is acceptable. 30% believe crying at work has no negative impact.

617.825 - 640.175 Clare Stephens

So when I finished university and I was looking for jobs, the only people I had to kind of help me were my parents' generation because they're the only people who I knew worked. And they were like, you have to wear this. You have to talk like this. You must, must, must not cry at work. I love that they told you that. Exactly. Because they're like just an FYI for you personally.

640.195 - 644.381 Clare Stephens

You're really emotional. You can't cry at work. And then I started working at Mamma Mia.

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