Emily Vernem

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Hello and welcome to Mamma Mia Out Loud, what women are really talking about, what women are actually talking about.

It's the last show of the year and I've forgotten what we do.

Yeah.

It's what women are actually talking about on Friday, the 19th of December.

Out Louders, this is your last normal programming show for 2025.

Over the summer, there are going to be lots of little treats dropping in your feed, including, of course, our iconic Word of the Year episode.

Yeah.

So all of that is happening, but this is our last regular show for 2025.

And it's a unique one because this Friday, at the end of an emotional and intensely distressing week for so many, we continue to send our love and we know out loud as love and support to Australia's Jewish community and everyone deeply affected by Sunday's attack on Sydney.

And also today, my friends and I are going to end our year how we always try to end the week, with a news-free window of distraction and comfort and hopefully a little joy.

So...

I'm Holly Wainwright.

I'm Em Burnham.

And I'm Jessie Stephens.

And for the last time in 2025, here's what's on our agenda for today.

And I don't want to add to your end of year to-do list, but I'm going to.

The email you need to write to yourself right now.

But first, Emily Vernon.

Now, tacky is a word that upsets people quite a lot.