Holly Wainwright

Stripped two beds and done two loads of washing.

Always.

Done three different breakfasts.

Wait, wait, why are you stripping the beds?

Because someone's always weed.

Oh no.

Yeah.

Like there's a lot of that, right?

So there's a lot of that happening.

Three different breakfasts, three different people getting dressed, trying to put your makeup on while you're trying to shove some food in your face, two different drop-offs.

I remember the mayhem and falling into the office with your coffee.

We used to have a 9am meeting then, which we still do now, content meeting and just falling in there like,

Oh, yeah, I totally know what's going on, right?

Yes.

And it's funny because I'm in such a different season now.

My mornings look so different but that was my life for years and whenever I see mums at Mamma Mia who have just come back from mat leave or they've just come back from their second one in particular, the look on their faces.

Yes.

I've lived a day.

They have lived a day by the time they get here.

I was listening to Stacey Hicks, who was one of our hosts on Parenting Out Loud, and Gemma Bath, host on True Crime Conversations in the kitchen this morning, and it sounded exactly like what Claire was just discussing.