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He wasn't being exploited about it in the same way he is now.

And I just think it's changed that game.

And I don't know how helpful it is.

I know what you mean, but also his strength used to be that he walks them into a trap where they'll say something outrageous or let an inside thought be an outside thought.

But that's what these guys do all day, every day, is just say awful stuff.

Louis doesn't have to tempt them to say anything awful.

He doesn't have to trap them.

In fact, he has to become complicit.

There's a really disturbed, one of the most disturbing parts for me is when he goes on the podcast of one of the guys.

I think it's Myron Gaines, who's a really disturbing character.

One of the things he does on his podcast, YouTube stream, is he gets women, many of whom are like content creator, OnlyFans content creators, to come on the podcast and he humiliates them.

So he'll ask them general knowledge questions that he knows they're not going to be the answer to.

and then he'll mock them, talk about their body count, just be generally gross and spread lots of misinformation.

And Louis has to be on that show and he can't really, I just, I don't know, I found a lot of that.

I just found that very, I felt like he was, I don't want to patronise Louis Theroux, he's a master of his art, but I think these guys are playing a different game to him.

That sounds legit.

Yeah, and that's why women can't be hoes.

And yet it's the...

And yet it's the women on this show who are dumb, according to him, according to Myron Gaines.

He's like, these women don't know what the capital of Bulgaria is and yet over here we're holding on to the DNA of every man we've ever seen.