Holly Wainwright

I said, I'm pregnant.

So no, I'm not going to take the job.

Right.

So it wasn't, and there was another opportunity that came along the next time I was pregnant.

Clearly things happen at the same time.

When I did the other way and I didn't say no, I said, yes, but you need to know I'm pregnant.

And funnily the phone never rang after that.

But it is interesting because I think I underestimated myself and what I was capable of in terms of balancing work and family, which I had to do anyway, as I say.

But in the scheme of things, I don't regret it.

You know what I don't want?

Because she was like, I don't want to be answering emails at 4am like this other senior staffer that I know.

I don't want to be doing that.

Emma Greed would be very upset, by the way.

I think I always say to people when they ask for career advice, not that they should ask me necessarily, but my career has changed a lot in the last few years.

And part of it was about asking yourself a question of what you wanted your life to look like, which is the same thing that you're saying, really.

You're like saying, I don't want my life to look like this where everything is just about this.

And then I think that that can help you put the pieces in place.

But it's very hard to say no to what looks like a really good opportunity.

Yeah.

It's hard to say no full stop, which we've talked about a lot.