Holly Wainwright

And now the average spend is 140.

Now, obviously there's inflation in that, but also it's just this increased pressure to like celebrate, celebrate.

It's never enough.

Who are we celebrating?

And it's also indicative that thing you said about active motherhood, which is just going to do my head in all day, is how myopic we can also be sometimes is that we think that motherhood is changing nappies.

But like motherhood is also dealing with your adult kids' financial problems, being nice to their partner that you don't like, you know, like giving them... Like once you're a parent, you're always a parent in some way.

And it seems funny to me that we're always trying to find reasons to cut people out, cut mothers out of being celebrated.

I know.

Yeah.

I want to know what will happen in your house on Mother's Day for you as a mother of a small child.

Yes, please do.

What did you ask for?

He hasn't replied.

That is great.

Yeah.

You better be coming in on Monday in that present.

You better be.

All the outlouders will know if I don't, won't they?

You know what I said?

The only information I gave to Brent, he's actually going away for a few days, so he won't be there on Mother's Day.