Holly Wainwright

Yeah.

Yeah, yeah.

She says, always answer the door to your dinner party, dressed or fancy but barefoot because that suggests...

Oh, I'm not quite ready.

Oh, I'm a little bit loosey-goosey.

With an apron on with a bit of flour on it.

You're all dollied up but you haven't had time to put your shoes on.

So it puts people at ease.

Yeah, right.

She was like, or, as you've just said, put an apron over your evening dress.

Anyway, but she also says that you should do things like that, cookies, ice cream, or, you know, like lay out people's breakfast, like here's some yogurt, here's some fruit, because people like to make their own things the way they like them.

Yes.

You're right, that was the best.

Holly, what salad?

What's your signature salad?

This is very boring, but it's actually my favourite thing to eat in the world.

So the other reason I take it is because I can sit and eat it.

I've been making exactly the same salad since I was 14, which is like some kind of grain, like brown rice, quinoa, couscous.

Did you know what quinoa was when you were 14?

No, no, I didn't.