Holly Wainwright

She is that person.

The thing that makes that dangerous is she needs money now.

And she could do all kinds of things.

Tell all memoirs, Oprah interviews, reality shows about cloning corgis, psychic medium shows where she communes with Diana.

I mean, the ideas out there are endless.

And one of them is probably going to happen.

Because this is a very simple, simple issue.

Got it really clear to explain.

It's really interesting, your story then, Em, because I think depending on where you live, what stage of life you're at, and whether or not you have a family and need to drive for various things, or whether or not you live on a farm, or whether or not you're a truck driver, your relationship with petrol and cars is very different, right?

But Australia is a car-driving country, no question, right?

And it's affecting everybody.

As the point you've made, because the answer to why petrol is getting expensive is because of the war in the Middle East, which is causing humanitarian crisis in all kinds of countries.

very difficult geopolitical issues, but it boils down to affect our bottom line.

I don't think that's trivial when we're already living in a very heightened environment of stress about money, cost of living crisis, all of those things.

And now we're being told, you turn on the TV and it's like, we're going to run out of petrol.

We're going to run out of petrol.

Everything's going to become more expensive.

It's like adding on the stress to ordinary people in different situations, just more and more stress to their lives.

So I think it's fair that everybody's worried about it.

And I think people are getting a little bit antsy about being told, you're wrong.