Holly Wainwright

And by the time the Queen died, like that relationship had been repaired to a point, but there was a lot of drama there.

So I think that William and Catherine in particular are very much like, stop pretending the Queen liked you, Fergs.

Anyway, it is also given a lot of credence, this report, by the fact that Fergie's people have responded.

Have you got that?

She was into it.

Look, just with one note that makes this story slightly more serious, as you referenced at the top of this, Claire,

Fergie has been so discredited and disgraced by the latest Epstein release, which shows that even after that, so we know what a terrible human he was, she was sending, and she said she distanced herself from him, she was sending emails calling him her supreme friend, her greatest supporter, saying, why don't you marry me already?

Like her brother, like calling, that relationship was incredibly tight because she was basically always asking him for money.

And so she is absolutely disgraced and cast out.

But this money issue is really dangerous for the royal family because Fergie famously goes through a lot of money.

I was listening to a podcast the other day and one of the most respected royal experts in Britain is a woman called Ingrid Seward and she was saying...

that Fergie can spend money like nobody else.

And Ingrid Seward has known her for years and says she went through her divorce settlement in a hot minute.

The queen bought her a house and said, go live there, be quiet, stop talking about corgis and stuff.

She went through that in a hot minute.

And then she needed more.

That's why she was always going to Epstein and being like, I want to fly to Florida for lunch with you.

Preferably business.

The girls can go economy.

Maybe the girls could go business and I could go first class.