Holly Wainwright

It's all out there.

And it's a huge franchise, right?

There are so many.

There are so many all over the world.

Salt Lake City is allegedly the best one.

And we obviously have our own Australian one.

And it's like,

There's an element of wealth tourism in the attraction of this franchise from the beginning, which is like, I want to see their houses, their clothes, their cars, their parties, and then there's obviously the drama.

So in a way it's become like broadly a bit of an arc about females surviving shitty men?

I couldn't click fast enough, because as I just explained, I'm invested from a deep past in Rachel Zoe's marriage.

As soon as I saw that she was spilling the guts of the split with Roger, I was like, I need to know what happened with Roger, because in my mind, they were like this power couple, and they'd been together forever.

So my purient...

desire to, like, give me the goss definitely worked.

That is not something.

Although Emma looks like maybe she did.

Because she also talks about how they'd separated, but her decision to press go on the divorce was when he brought his new girlfriend over and the kids didn't like... Like, there's a lot of... She's really diving into the detail.

And there's an ethical question there, right, about...

we've kind of touched this before, is your divorce story your story to tell, like your side of it?

But I would suggest if you've got a contract to be on Real Housewives of Beverly Hills, yes, it is.

And there must be a supreme feeling of maybe not revenge, but satisfaction to be...