Horatio Gould

He broke his idea.

Do we know how they met?

Kissinger just came to the... I think just... Isn't the talk of Kissinger...

uh because you're in chile i think yeah he had some he had some business in the region at the time yeah he's a right-wing junters to me yeah exactly they met in 1974 hotel in sao paulo and he sought out pele to persuade him to come out of retirement isn't he sat in like with all the families when they win it or something like that

Anyway, Pelé's high point is 1970.

Then this is when sort of the game becomes really commercial.

And he goes on to like be the face of Coke and Viagra.

And he's in, what's the, Escape to Victory.

It's got a lot of people in it.

It's kind of crap.

Bobby Moore in it and Gordon Burns.

It's a PO, they're playing against Nazis.

Yeah.

Sylvester Stallone, Michael Caine, Pele.

I'm watching that.

So Pele retires in 19-whatever.

And then, yeah, 1977.

With the mad goal record that's a bit... Yeah, so what's going on there?

He's up for charity as well.

Exactly.