Host (Jeff)

I think that's as dodgy as a 2am curry.

I don't think that's good for you, mate.

I think that's full pass.

So, the...

The difficulty is for both clips, we are seeing the side-on angle, and that is very different to what you get as a front-on angle.

And I think the front-on angle gives you a better view of what's going on.

And then, I mean, I look at, like he was saying, he's looking at the 22 line.

Yeah.

I was trying to look at shadows, but obviously the light's in a different area.

Because you're really trying to figure out.

I think in that, the second one, it's going forward.

You can see that noticeably the ball is travelling forward.

It's quite possible.

I think that we've talked about this in the past.

If it's grey, stay away.

So the TMO doesn't want to come in on that.

I don't know that we should be refereeing rugby to the scoreline and saying... I'm not saying that they did, but I get a feeling... I can see what you're saying with it, yeah.

Well, again, I think that's because it's so grey.

It's such a marginal thing.

Two erudite, handsome men, and we're disagreeing.