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And he kind of fell off a cliff.
As he got old and when his legs weren't there and also he got away from Andy Reid, his career went down the toilet.
But Aaron Rodgers had to kind of reinvent himself from a guy that would scramble around, would create time, would throw on the run to being a guy that could operate just from the pocket.
Where should the optimism be that Patrick Mahomes can make that evolution the same way Aaron Rodgers did, whether it's now or five years from now?
Is it more of a conversation about Andy Reid?
I mean, he loves to get five guys out into the pattern, and Mahomes has lost some mobility, lost some escapability.
Is it more about Andy Reid making the adjustment to what Patrick Mahomes can now physically do?
The Chiefs clearly decided that the inexperience they had at the wide receiver coach was a part of the problem.
They went out and got a very accomplished wide receiver coach.
And Chad O'Shea, a guy who's been a passing game coordinator, they really upgraded that spot.
When you look at Rashi Rice, who is...
in jail and now, I guess, is being allowed to have therapists in to help him rehab his knee while he serves his 30 days, but has been clearly a knucklehead again.
And now, instead of being able to serve it whenever he felt like it, has happened to serve it right now, and he's missing OTAs in many camps.
Xavier Worthy, Jalen Royals, a fourth-round pick from last year.
They re-signed Tyquan Thornton.
When you look at that, just the wide receiver part of the equation, how...
How good is it, and how much would a Chad O'Shea, in your mind, elevate the play of that wide receiver room?
We're talking to James Palmer right now, NFL insider from Bleacher Report, as we talk about the Kansas City Chiefs, also co-host of the 89 podcast with Steve Smith Sr.
Kenneth Walker was brought in.
His best numbers were produced when they lined up under center with the Seattle Seahawks.