Howard Beck

You have only three other times it's happened in the last 20-something years.

Memphis over San Antonio in the first round in 2011.

And that's not the average eight seed, that Memphis team.

That's Mark Gasol, Zach Randolph, Mike Conley, Tony Allen.

That's the grit and grind Grizzlies.

2012, Philly over Chicago.

Bless you.

That's Derrick Rose, ACL blowout in game one.

Massive caveat on that series.

And then we got 2023, Miami over Milwaukee in five games.

That's the Giannis.

It's not a failure.

Press conference, I believe.

And Giannis missed two games in that series.

So a lot of these have major caveats on them.

And...

The Pistons, all I'll say is, as I was trying to take a step back, I'm not trying to make excuses for them, but I was thinking about context and is there something more to this other than holy shit, the rare one seed with 60 wins is going down the first round.

One, clearly, the Magic are not your average eight seed, right?

Like that Grizzlies team that upset San Antonio back in the day,

This Magic team has three guys who are in our ringer, in the top 100, or in our top 50, right?