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Howard Lutnick

๐Ÿ‘ค Speaker
2133 total appearances

Appearances Over Time

Podcast Appearances

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

I see the head nodding.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

If we need to add 100, after the meetings they had this morning, I think it's more than 100 gigawatts in the next five or seven years, the first thing to do is stop subtracting 100 at the same time you want to add 100.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

But I think America became great by big, bold people making big, bold investments.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

That's where we got here.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

And then we've just drifted off track the last bunch of years and made it so hard to build something, so easy to stop something, and just a crazy love affair with intermittent, unreliable energy sources.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

If you take all the batteries in the United States, you can store five minutes of power.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Five minutes.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

It can be the majority on a sunny day in the summertime.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

That's not what matters.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

In PJM, where we are right now, at peak demand this year, 97% of electricity, wind, solar, and batteries delivered 3%.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

That's when it matters.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Absolutely.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Let's talk Texas.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

So the peak demand times in Texas have been cold spells.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

They're high-pressure systems in the wintertime.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Wind and solar go on vacation.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

They're 35% of the capacity in Texas, 8% of the delivered power at peak demand.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

Yeah, but those are the two weeks that matter, right?

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

In Yuri, when they weren't ready, over 200 people died.

All-In with Chamath, Jason, Sacks & Friedberg
Winning the AI Race Part 4: Scott Bessent, Howard Lutnick, Chris Wright, and Doug Burgum

We don't want people to die.