Hugh van Cuylenburg

I feel that every day when I leave the house.

To go and punish yourself physically.

Yeah.

I just have this picture on my head.

I saw you, well, not you, but a version of you yesterday.

I saw a lady trying to get her two kids who sound exactly the age you're talking about here, trying to get them into the car.

And she had a bag on her shoulder, which had opened up and things were dropping out.

And she was just crying, like she was just doing it, but crying.

And I was walking past, I thought I have to say something here so that she knows I think she's doing a great job, but I didn't.

got quite panicked with what to say to wouldn't come across wrong so i just looked at her for a bit and then walked off which was no that was terrible i just looked at her and walked off but hey stuff's falling out of your bag so yeah good luck no i just i was like i say something nice i say nice i i'm so scared she takes the wrong way she was like so upset so no i'm just wondering were you sure i think about penny and myself at this stage were you in tears a lot did you

Yeah, that's exactly what I felt yesterday.

So with the double CrossFit days and the busyness that you were kind of forcing on yourself, did you know what you were trying to hide from or run away from?

Lie detectors.

Oh, really?

It's almost like the movie representation of someone who's overwhelmed.

Yes, yeah.

Exactly.

Yeah, I have a strong memory of that.

Yeah.

I remember the first week we had our, I think on a Tuesday, I remember Fido going, oh, my God, thank God it's the weekend.