Hugh van Cuylenburg

So there was no moment of, oh, I've been in this situation before where a doctor has managed to... No, no, didn't, could not, I still didn't trust anyone.

They're very beautifully described and I just am thinking about people who are listening to this who are relating to either of those two and just, yeah, the importance of seeking medical.

Even if they have to use trickery on you to get you to go, but just going and even asking a question.

I've got four others.

So can I ask, like, how is Ari now?

How old?

Ari's four now.

Really?

Well, I just think it's such a generous story for you to share.

And thousands and thousands and thousands of mums around the country will relate.

And I do feel like it's a story we don't hear a lot about.

Because I just like exactly what you were going through.

Like I need to cope.

I've seen other people cope.

I don't want to share that I'm not coping.

So I really hope that this helps so many mums out there to feel less alone in what they're going through and to seek help.

So, Bron, thank you so much.

Oh, thanks.

Yeah, you are truly amazing and your kids are so incredibly lucky.

I still haven't found out what religion Ari was, but that's okay.