Hugh van Kylenburg

I showed them everything they could have had.

I showed them Bondi.

I said, come to Sydney with me.

And they're like, no, we just like St Kilda and hanging out with the local kids.

So I never moved to Sydney, so I pretend to live in Sydney for four years.

Yeah, I would go up there a couple of days a week.

I would not say I wasn't living in Sydney, if you know what I mean.

So I was sort of trying to imply I'm living in Sydney.

Yeah, not lying.

Yeah, but sort of lying through omission.

But, yeah, so I was – and the radio station I was on today, which has had trouble since Kyle and Jackie O left.

That whole station's been – just hasn't found its place since then, and they've gone through heaps of breakfast shows, really good people.

But, of course, I thought I'll be the one to save the day because I'm a hero.

And then when it was not – the ratings weren't going up what we wanted them to, that was – it was tough for me.

But we eventually got sacked, really.

And it was, like, humiliating for about half an hour.

And then it was, like, liberating.

And honestly, that first probably real big failure of my life, I know it sounds corny, but it's actually the – I'm going to say it's the best thing that's happened.

Really?

It made me realise –