Hulvey
Appearances
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
You're reminding me of Psalms 1. Those who meditate on the law of the Lord day and night will be like trees planted by streams, whose fruit will never wither in any season. What's the law of the Lord? To love the Lord your God with all your heart, soul, mind, and strength, and love your neighbor as yourself.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
As you're saying that, the Holy Spirit just poured out of my heart because I used to meditate on that verse every day for like two months. Can I ask you a question?
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
You know what I mean? Yes. Yes. Still learning.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
And I spoke genuinely, but that genuine answer walked me out of... He wasn't trying to set a trap for me, but it was really hilarious because what he said, RJ was like, oh my gosh, that could have went south really quick.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Best two parents ever. amazing bonnie and mike my mom and dad best two parents ever um i have two brothers bonnie and mike bonnie and mike sounds like a movie it sounds like a movie like bonnie and clyde man let me tell you man like i grew up you know um in a trailer grew up uh i was telling you before the show i mean i used to put my ear to the vent in the floor to get ac you know what i mean so
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Not a lot of money. My parents worked as a and they still do as a pair of pros at school with special needs kids. They have huge hearts. And growing up, I just was infiltrated with the love of Jesus every day. Not in some perfect way. We all have our flaws, but like. My parents are so genuine and they never chase money once in their life. They've never chased anything but him.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
And as a young kid, I mean, they brought me to church every Sunday. You know what I mean? But for me, when I was four years old, I remember I asked my parents to come in the room and I said, hey, I want to invite Jesus in my heart. Did not know what that meant at all. But I want to invite Jesus in my heart. And I believe that a transaction happened in that moment.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I stayed in the interview. I was saying my answer luckily pulled me out of what could have been a trap question that he didn't realize he was asking because he asked about a line that she said in the song that fans found controversial.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
But when I look at my life and my church upbringing, the thing was there was a lot of head knowledge. I was around a lot of scholastic Christians with great knowledge and vast understanding of the scriptures. But to be honest, man. But no fruit. No fruit. Yeah. And I saw some fruit. You know what I mean? I'm not taking away from everyone.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
But overall, I struggle to see fruit in a lot of the churches I would go to because I'm from the Bible Belt. And I think that I got a lot of great teaching, but I would have loved a lot of great experiences. And I think that that. It didn't draw me away from him, but I think I missed out on a deeper relationship with him, even at a young age. And I'm thankful that I had integrity.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
If I stole something, I felt terrible. You know what I mean?
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, I think you're right. I mean, there was fruit from there. I mean, I remember I snuck in while my parents were asleep. I snuck in the fridge, grabbed a carton of milk, poured myself a glass of milk. I wasn't supposed to be getting up, drinking stuff out of the fridge. I did. I felt terrible, like convicted. Or for the smallest stuff, five years old, like I feel so bad.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I had the hot, you know, the heat wave come over me, everything.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, yeah. But no, I mean, bro. Yeah, I mean, but I do remember in middle school definitely feeling different. But man, something changed on that mission trip I was telling y'all about. When I went to Memphis, Tennessee, I'm 16 years old. You know, something changed from what I knew before. I did go to youth group, man, like I was like a leader in a sense.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
But, man, something changed, man, when I heard him say, follow me. And I think you're right. The first transaction was the Holy Spirit entering into me. I think the second was me becoming a disciple. I think that's maybe what it is. Well, think about it.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Bro, you're bringing clarity to my own journey right now. I hope you understand that.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I mean, he was after his own heart. He was honest.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, dude. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. And I think after that was like the period of, you know, you know, when people argue about like the baptism of the Holy Spirit.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
No, I was in college. I have a witness of this, too. I'm in college and my friend Tyrese is with me. We're at the lake at our college at like midnight. and I'm on my knees in front of the lake, and I hear the Holy Spirit speak to me very clearly. He was like, speaking tongues right now. I'm like, speaking tongues? I feel his presence as I'm saying it. I'm like, speaking tongues?
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I grew up, they didn't speak tongues in church. And I would try to, but I didn't know what that was. That's witchcraft, sir. Yeah. Bro, it was the most beautiful thing because I felt like in that moment I experienced what they would call the baptism of the Holy Spirit. I'm not good at contextualizing things, but I do know that you're right, bro.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
There's these rungs along the journey that he just continues to mark your heart. You become a disciple, and now you're becoming full of the Spirit in the way you live. I don't know. It's beautiful.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Bro, I just wrote a bar last night. I was working on a song. It's crazy to say this. I said, Heaven's MD went empty. Like, Heaven's music director went empty. Yeah. He used to be Heaven's music director, and then he got hungry for his own fame, and he went empty.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah. That's what I mean, like Heaven's MD, like Heaven's music director. Just got fired. He's fired. God, terminate it.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah. You know, maybe this has just been God's grace, but so far I don't feel like people have crossed lines. And if they do, it kind of feels as if it just naturally doesn't work out. I feel like I haven't had to have I'm sure it's coming, but I haven't had to have the blunt convo of like, hey, bro, like what you're saying on this song does not align with my heart.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I feel like just the rooms he's been able, I've been in, it's either a, I'm able to just be a light and maybe we work on something, but it doesn't come out or be like, it does work, you know, but maybe, maybe that's just because I do make a lot of music out of like my room at our house.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Like right now, like I just, I've been in like this like place of intimacy with the Lord of just making it out homegrown type of thing. Um, but yeah, no, I do think that time's probably coming of like, okay, bro, I don't think I can do this one, but I am very selective in the first place.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I don't, I don't, I try not to hop into things too prematurely because I don't want to be in a spot where I have to like tell somebody whose heart was so genuine, like, bro, like. I don't want to be that type of guy.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
No, I could see a world where the Lord's like, let him say what he wants to say. Yeah. For sure. And maybe that time is coming. I mean, I think my career has been in such a transitional place right now. Like Kyle and Chris were saying, it's gotten to a spot where I'm seeing doors open and, you know, just kind of stepping in rooms I'm not used to in the best way.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Like, I'm like, okay, this is different. I thought, you know, I don't know. I thought it was just going to live in a niche. I didn't know. You know what I mean?
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I think I just don't want to get too big for my britches, as they say. I don't want to get to a spot where my head blows through the roof, and I think it was me. And I'm not there right now, but I think that that is literally the warning. Do you know how to prevent that from happening? I think, man, I got to stay humbled before him. I got to open up.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I mean, maybe you have advice on that, but I think, like, with me and my wife, that's been the biggest weapon. Like, her, my mentors, Lecrae, like, reminded me, like... Mentors are strong.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Oh, bro, it's concerning to me. I actually think that's a red flag.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Dude, I get made fun of because I say the word mentor so much. Really? Yeah, my mentor told me this. My mentor told me that. And they're like, haha, mentor. I'm like, well, I don't know anything right now. I'm 26. I need help. Say sensei.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Like your heart's thankful. Yes. You're in a heart of like, thank you, God.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
And what's funny is those things about you, like, oh, like I'm funny or, oh, I'm a great speaker, actually highlight more because he's got the glory. And I think that people are like, wow, look at what God has given him, not what he's given himself. Like, that's beautiful, bro.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
yeah and you could be proud of it in a so much of a better way yeah you know what i mean yeah actually remember brandon me and brandon lake were talking about this i got to go on tour with him and he was talking about how it's like no it's okay to be aware of the gifts god's given you amen he was like dude like he was very like blunt about it like it's okay to know that he was just very clear about it no it's like it's from him yeah it's okay to know bro just know because wouldn't it be wrong if like god gave you a gift and you were like no
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I see a lot of people do that. I got peers. I'm like, dude, why aren't you hustling, bro? You've got all the gifts. You're more talented than me, bro. Run. It's all about faith, bro. Yeah, dude.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Dude, you know, I actually, what's crazy, I got to play Rolling Loud and the biggest rap festival ever.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
in the world yeah we got to play it i saw that was cool and dude you did a song about that right oh yeah yeah like a fun freestyle at the fest yeah um bro they said that the staff of rolling live was crying during the moment of altar and i think when you were saying that like taking territory i'm like
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I'm like, no, I'm definitely seeing that in live time right now. All of our guys, we came in there like warriors. Unified, bro. Give me fired up right now.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
saw a man with six infused vertebraes in his back healed right in front of me saw a woman demon possessed healed right in front of me and i'm like what is going on on that trip i heard jesus speak to my heart and he said follow me i broke down crying because my whole life i always tried to get jesus to follow me i always tried to be enough i tried to invite jesus in my heart a hundred times and then i realized that his grace was calling after me he wanted me to come after him and so i took
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah. So, man, me and Sierra worked on a record, Alter Remix. Incredible experience. When was this? This was summer of 24. And it was incredible, bro. Like I, you know, I got on the phone with her and she's like, hey, I just want to use my platform to lift up Jesus.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I used to judge. I remember back in high school. I told my boy, I basically, this is before I was mature in the Lord, but I basically was like, bro, I referenced like, dog, you're going to go to hell, bro. And I remember I had to call that man two years later, like, hey, bro.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I just wanted to say, like, when I basically told you that she was going to hell, like, I'm really sorry. Like, I was wrong. That was a tough one. Yeah.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I was wilding. What did he do that you were like, you're going to go to hell? So back in the day, so for context, bro, I'm from the South, bro. So we had these things called ranking. Some people call it joning or flaming or roasting. We call it ranking. Ranking? Ranking.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
No, like I'm making fun of you. Ranking? I'm on your head top. Like I'm making fun of you. Dude, you're speaking a whole different language.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I'm speaking in Brunswick, Georgia tongues right now. So you're ranking people. So we were making fun of each other and it got heated. And so then I felt like what I could do was jab at his lifestyle, which was wrong. It was wrong. I was 17. You went from roasting to literally throwing him in hell. I didn't say he was going to hell.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I referenced he could possibly be going to hell, which was saying he was going to hell. And, uh, I felt so bad, and me and him are tight to this day. And now he has dreams about my career and texts me, and that's my brother. But literally, like, and he's definitely going to be watching this because I know he's a fan of you guys. But it's so funny because, like— That was me.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
He did that to you, bro. I'm talking directly to you. I'm so sorry, Seth. I love you, bro.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I'm listening to this actually because I'm still trying to forgive him. No, bro. Literally, I remember back then just kind of being in like that judgmental place thinking I was in a right spot. But then the Lord gut checked the living crap out of me in college and was just like, dude, like. you have an opportunity to meet people where they're at in a whole new way.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
And that's what I started doing. And bro, I saw way more fruit. I saw people getting saved. Like my friends getting saved because I was able to humble myself, realize that I was a piece of piece of trash without him. And then to solve them grow from it. So yeah, bro. Uh, thankful for the times I fell on my face because, uh, now I'm falling in grace.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Oh, my gosh. Immense. Like, it was immense. It was literally night and day. I felt like a new man, honestly, because I was able to then pray for my friends and be able to empathize with my friends. Like, writing their names in my journal in private with the Lord in my secret time. Instead of, like, just trying to preach at them, I'm literally, like, warring for them in private.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
That did a lot for me. And I've never been the same since. I can't even have the same heart. Because I grew up around the people that would be like that, and I didn't want to be like that. A lot of people are like that.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Literally what she told me. I just want to lift up Jesus. I want to use what I have to glorify him.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
So you're saying you could be harder on yourself. Of course you are. When you're judging others, you're really probably condemning yourself all the time, which I was, by the way. Yeah, of course.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Bro, I've had the Lord in our first year of marriage. I remember with me and my wife getting like an argument or something.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I don't know if she was releasing as much. She's released a smaller amount of music, but she stays very present on social media. Got it. All that stuff, you know, influencing. Ciara was a –
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
i remember the lord would like sit me down and he would say so sternly go apologize right now to my daughter right now very stern loving but like hey bro you're not going to be mean to my daughter and i just love how he's like he holds us accountable bro like there's no excuse it puts you in check it's like if you love your wife if you love your wife
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
You know what I mean? It keeps you accountable. For the men out there, get with God now. Yeah. So that you don't start acting crazy to your spouse, bro. Because I'm tired of these stories, man. I'm so sick of it, bro. Hearing all this mess. Yeah. The way people's wives are getting treated. Like, bro.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I had to realize like, bro, like my mood, even with the music industry or things I go through, I had to remember like, oh shoot, this does affect my wife. Like, even if I think it's just me dealing with it, we're one. So she's dealing with everything I'm dealing with and I'm dealing with everything she's dealing with. People forget that. It's not siloed. It's together.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, you do. But how much more beautiful is it when your mind is on the spirit and you don't even realize you're impacting your spouse?
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Sure. Sure. I mean, bro, that matters to me. And I think that I want to be a great husband and dad. But then the Lord's like, dude, in your weakness, I will make you strong. Like, that's how you're going to succeed. Like the fact that we want him, we want to be better as husbands and dads is a good sign, man.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Like, you know, it can be hard because I feel that pressure because I just want I'll say this. I had a vision of me and my wife. Holding hands. Have you ever seen the last Narnia movie? With the portal opened in the waves and Aslan. Spoiler alert, bro. Sorry.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
A portal opened in the waves and it was like the lion Aslan, who represented Jesus, was like next to them and they walked back into, I guess back to earth, but it looked like eternity to me. But in the vision of me and my wife, it looked like that. And I was, like, holding her hand, and we're walking into eternity with the Lord. I've had this picture in my brain, like, heavily. Amen.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
And I just want to reflect that. And so that can't be me always stressing, am I good enough? I got to walk forwards.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
into who he's made us to be because um time's really short man like you know eternity's calling now and so I think I just I want her I want to hear well done good and faithful man and I and I think that uh I think she's gonna be so grateful if I can continue to just walk towards that that wave portal bro walk towards eternity with my eyes set on that you know yeah
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, it caused a stir in a good and bad way. So what I mean by that is she got on the song. It was my song, Alter. She got on the remix of Alter. Oh, got you, got you. And some people heard her lyrics as thinking that she was saying New Age things, but what she was saying was for the Lord to keep her away from certain things. Did you give us the lyric?
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
one that's it we move beautifully so you shouldn't feel guilty on loving the things that he wants you to love that's the devil being like oh you're only doing that because you feel no because it's like yeah it's because it came from the lord like yeah there's like scripture about loving his um decrees or like loving his word his his commands like falling in love with it yeah like falling in love with his truth his principles yeah yeah i think that that's like really solid actually
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, I'm working on singles. I'm cranking out songs that I believe are special. Special.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
no like my spirit will feel disturbed yes yes i get disturbed honestly it's like a battle of like how much of this can i take in there's moments where i feel like okay i'm soaking in influence i'm soaking in uh i'm learning the game i'm listening to good music but then there's a level of like all right like playboy cardi my spirit i can't listen to this
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
My spirit feels like expired grape right now. I feel like I'm shriveling, and that's not what I want to be. Like, bro, if I'm playing it in the car, I could go two songs in, and then I'm just like, okay. I'm over this.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, I mean, it's such a random bag. I mean, I listen to a lot of Brandon Lake. I love his music. Love him, bro. I keep him spinning.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I turn them into worship songs. But in some songs, it's like...
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Some songs were like, how do I flip this one? If I replace that for Jesus, does it work? Yeah, is that blasphemy? I don't know. Jesus in the club? Nah, it don't work.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, so she said, you protect me from low vibrations. And certain Christians were like, she said low vibrations. That's New Age. When I heard it, the demo, I was like, God's trying to—she's trying to ask for protection.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Now you have a lot of Christian rappers that say, like, pull up with the Bible blicky. Pull up with the...
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Especially for guys who actually used to live that way, it's hard.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
A lot. I think more people than we know, Jordan.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, you know what I'm saying? Sorry, I think I got in my conspiracy bag. No, no, no. How do you know? How do you know?
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I remember one time I was at Starbucks and I was with a dude like we were just talking about the Lord and there was a lady next to us. I think she probably was in like her 50s and she turned over. She was like, hey, I just need to say this right now. She was like, I never do this. She was like, you're God's cool kid. I was like, what are you talking about? She didn't know who I was.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I didn't have really a platform or anything at the time. She was like some bigwig judge, like an actual judge, like in the court system. And she randomly felt like she needed to tell me, you're God's cool kid. And I think what I'm getting at is like,
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
i think we really can still have swag and who we are and like that doesn't change like our spirit you know what i mean like sometimes we just god works with our attitudes like you know like his disciples the sons of thunder i bet they had some anger you know what i mean if he nicknamed them the sons of thunder brother he cut a soldier's ear off
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Why don't the disciples wash their hands when they eat? That's what the Pharisees are asking. So, I mean, he definitely got some ragtag dudes.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Oh, I bet he played with them all the time and stuff like that.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I can't wait to see your eyes one day. I have a lot of lines about seeing his eyes, actually. I don't even know which song it would be.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Y'all get ready. You better get extra toilet paper. It's like, all right. Yeah, bro.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I built an iron fort. I'm ready for that. When you go back there, it's impenetrable, however you say it.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Dude, we have like a grip of tours getting planned, which is kind of wild. Because, you know, the words like don't plan a year, like don't say I'm going to do this in a year. It's all Lord willing. So we're like planning, but we know like anything could change. Yeah, in hopes. We're working on like a campus tour going around colleges. Nice. Just reaching students, playing big rooms.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
There's an organization that's putting together the tour, and I think I'll just go on it. Is it just you or other people? It'll be me, and then I don't know how much I can say, but it'll be crazy, bro. There's another artist going. It's crazy. And so I'm really excited. We're from two different genres, so it'll be really cool to pull all these students.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Kind of like how you linked with Cliff, which I just want to meet him so bad. I want to just give the guy a hug. It's a good time to be a college student. I'm going to be real with y'all. I've definitely watched him speak and cry just him praying the prayers on his page.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I just want to see him and be like, bro, can I just give you a hug, man?
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, I think it's people's culture that they came up in.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
And to me, like, to be honest, y'all, it's not even like always to me, the logic that draws me in. It's the moments where he's just like he has like videos where he'll just pray a prayer. And I feel the Holy Spirit welling up in me so heavily that. that I'll cry or I'll feel like he's meeting me where I'm at. And that means there's got to be him just with the Lord.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
It's not even just all the things he knows, which is crazy, but just his heart seems genuine.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
their um translation of what they read and i think that uh the craziest part for me y'all is honestly seeing what that song did for my own family was so encouraging that who cares what everyone said i saw family members impacted and like i've never been able to have conversations about my music the way i was able to have when that song came out
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I go, bro... That's real. Like, that's how they do all this stuff. They just pull up. They're like the... That's the hardest thing I've ever heard. Yeah, they're like... Like, the word pull up is that... That's definitely, like, disciple vibes for sure.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
The way that like I had like my wife's brothers like rocking so heavy with it and like talking to me and like excited about it. Her sister, like, I don't know. It just meant a lot to me. So I just view it like sometimes I think the Lord wants to reach like the people in your direct life. Like when the whole Internet is like, what the heck? You have like family like, yo, man, that was really cool.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I think for me, I'm just excited for the people in the room that are just like, OK. I'm just going to go. I don't even know what this is. I think those are the ones I'm like geeked about.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
I had a show. We did a show in Michigan at a college and a guy showed up. And for some reason, so on my tour, this was the only show that was kind of like through like a different thing. So this was through a college. And the guy shows up, watches the show, and they did a Q&A after the show. I always do Q&A before. But they did a Q&A after.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
Yeah, like a VIP Q&A. Oh, gotcha, gotcha, gotcha. But this was like an after thing. The guy's like, listen, man, I'm not a believer. He was like, I showed up here because I love your music. And he's like, man, but I'm curious, and I just want to know.
The George Janko Show
The Hulvey Interview | EP. 108
and i think those are the ones that i'm just like so hungry to talk to and meet yeah i'm on this college thing because i just feel like you know i remember being in college and i remember meeting people that just didn't know better like some people just don't know better they don't know um why they feel the trauma they feel they don't know um you know the presence of god they don't they just don't know but they're hungry and they want it they just don't know and those are the ones i'm geeked about
The George Janko Show
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Man, I'm so proud of you. Like, I'm so proud of what God's doing. Man, this is really impactful to me. Like to me, that's worth it, man. Like.
The George Janko Show
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Um, and so I can't wait to meet them and, uh, and hopefully we'll get to play at like the university of Texas. My wife went there, so I'm hoping we'll play some places like that.
The George Janko Show
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Y'all heard it here first. When that song comes out, y'all heard it here. That would be great. That would be insane.
The George Janko Show
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But when you're saying that, it reminds me of just like when the Sierra thing, when some of the fans were upset. I'm actually really thankful. A shout out to y'all, the fans watching this, because even though some of y'all didn't agree, y'all stuck with me. And, you know, I think I want to be grateful for those, too.
The George Janko Show
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The ones that are letting me be who I'm made to be and are just here for the journey, what the Lord's doing, even if they don't always agree. Like, I love what you said. When people leave with love, your ears are perked. You're just like, yo, I rock with you. You don't we don't have to agree. Yeah. Yeah.
The George Janko Show
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Favorite part of the process. Obviously, making the music is amazing. Where do you start with that? So I'm a born natural freestyler, bro. Same. Off top. Like me and you, George, could probably sit.
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George, I might have to cut on a beat at some point, man. Listen, like for real, like for me, I'll go on a tour bus. It's like two in the morning. Isn't that right, bro? Two in the morning, we're just freestyling.
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I was a battle rapper. Telling people to go to hell. I was like... Flaming everybody like, man, your teeth look like this, man. What age? I was like ruthless. So you were the Paul. You were the Paul. You were using the talents against him. I was ruthless. That's so funny. I was in the locker room, bro. Like, bro, my battle record was probably like 103. I was a menace, dude. That's awesome.
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Bro, there's going to be people in the comments that are like, bro, I remember being in school with Chris. Man, he used to flame everybody on the school bus. There's going to be those comments because that was just.
The George Janko Show
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Oh, nah. Nah, but bro, for me, like, freestyling is just in my blood, bro. I think, like, when you look at the greats, Eminem, Black Dot, those guys are just incredible freestylers. And I think that, so in my process, it's like, I'll hear a beat and I will just mumble stuff. I will just rap whatever comes to my mind and heart and then put it together after. I got to get it off.
The George Janko Show
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that and it just bled into the music. I believe that that experience in Memphis marked my heart because I could never unsee what I saw. I could never take away the experience that I had with Jesus in that room. And so my music could never be the same.
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Like bad. Like bad, bad, bad. Bro, do y'all want to hear the story behind that song? Please. Okay. I'm recording. I'm recording the song. Stop.
The George Janko Show
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Isn't marriage like the best thing ever, man? It's the best, bro. Oh, my gosh.
The George Janko Show
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I was really nervous and excited. And then I just felt like a release once I got the question out.
The George Janko Show
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I was in my head, too, but, like, yeah, it was beautiful. So I'm in the studio. When I say studio, I was just in my home studio in my room. In the stew. And that's right. And I'm just writing a song, and I text Rachel. I'm like, hey, I think this is the best song I've ever made. She's like, oh, okay. She comes, listens to it, and she's like, bring heaven down.
The George Janko Show
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She said, Chris, I prayed last night that God would bring heaven down in your studio.
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Promise. We have written proof in her journal. Like, I saw the journal.
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Yeah. Does she have royalties? Rachel, if you want to buy something from the road.
The George Janko Show
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Yes. Yes. So, bro, first off, shout out to my A&R Ace Harris. He produced and he wrote the hook of Alter and sent it to me. Really? Yeah. When I was writing my verse, I just remember the first thing I could say is all I can say is holy. Amen. It's the first thing I could get out of my mouth. And I doubted it. I was like, man, this feels kind of slow. Is this swaggy enough? Is this dope enough?
The George Janko Show
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Yeah, I was kind of like, oh, me and the team that worked on this, it wasn't us. She prayed this song in. And so that's when we knew the song was going to move.
The George Janko Show
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when I saw y'all using it it was like yeah like for even the Christian Avengers thing it felt right because it was like that's the heart to bring heaven down to everyone the culture using us you know yeah bro and just the process the coolest part too is I recorded the final version in her father-in-law's studio my team came to his house
The George Janko Show
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no way that's awesome in his room and he was there with me so he does music too dude 20 year saxophone vet professional saxophone player has played on albums played in this you know the whole houston club circuit very successful um came out to my show and played with me in houston and a crowd erupted rj they erupted didn't they when when when keith came out and played saxophone
The George Janko Show
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I met RJ because he shot the No Longer Bound with me and Forrest. That's how we met. No way.
The George Janko Show
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And then it was stuck ever since because we did No Longer Bound, and then he shot Alter. So it was like, how come everything me, RJ, and Forrest are doing together, God's using, blowing it up? It's kind of weird. We should just keep working.
The George Janko Show
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We'll be up at four in the morning. Just talking about God, bro. Yeah. Sharing my journey, him sharing his. And it's like, there's no pressure. It's just like, this is what he's done in my life, bro. And it's been so cool, bro.
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I think the whole team feels like, are we in DreamWorks right now? This is crazy. It really is. It's pretty nuts. I'm not going to lie. As me and my wife are sleeping on the tour bus in the back bedroom, we're like, yo, we're doing this right now. I've said that multiple times in the middle of the night. Like, this is crazy. We're doing this.
The George Janko Show
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And Forrest was like, bro, this is the part you need to keep. You're tripping. All I can say is holy is it. Forrest Frank. Yeah, Forrest Frank.
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you need a brother bro you need a brother i feel like i feel like god's given me so many like when i look at my team like bro the guy who does like this engineering and sound that's like my brother i've gotten so close well his name's ac and biz too me and biz been with me actually biz has been with me since i got signed so 2020 2019 what's biz's real name Jacob. Jacob. That's not as cool.
The George Janko Show
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He's the GOAT. He's mixed everything you've heard from me, every single song.
The George Janko Show
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Yeah, we did No Longer Bound together. That was our first song together. And then he hopped on the song with me on the altar.
The George Janko Show
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No, like he has hit records on his belt that he's mixed and mastered, and he's just humble about it, you know? But we do joke about it. It's fun.
The George Janko Show
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That's what I'm saying. He'd be doing the same thing with me. Like, stuff that has nothing to do with, like, our agreements on our own music. Like, he'll just do it. I'm like, what are you doing, bro? Like you could be getting more money. He's like, just doesn't care.
The George Janko Show
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Those type of men. Those are the best. Yeah, bro. That's it.
The George Janko Show
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how did you we'll pin the forest conversation we'll get back to that but please continue with the yeah so i mean bro i'm writing my verse and i'm just in my head i then go to a show in atlanta georgia or athens georgia at university of georgia and then um i drive back to the studio at 2 a.m to finish this song and i get back in the studio i'm in my head and i just felt like the lord like picked me up during this recording session and gave me the lyrics that i needed
The George Janko Show
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Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I literally, I cannot do what I do without a team. So much of my music has been like,
The George Janko Show
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just soaked in like the anointing of others i feel like i'm just getting to like be a part you know how'd you meet your wife yeah actually what's crazy is i would have never met my wife if i never signed uh to lecrae is that part of the deal it was basically like hey if you signed to me it was like he was basically like if you signed to me like i'll find you no uh i signed and um
The George Janko Show
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So there's an artist on our label. Her name's Anike. And Rachel and Anike, before Anike ever had a music career, they went to the University of Texas together and they were very close friends. And so one day I'm hanging out with Anike at the Reach Studios and she's like, hey. We're hanging out. Sorry, I was like, hey, if you have any friends, let me know.
The George Janko Show
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Because I just had a bad dating experience. I'm like, I just want who God has for me. That's it. I just want to meet my wife. I was like, hey, if you know anybody, let me know. She's like, I do. Her name is Rachel. She's like, I do.
The George Janko Show
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So casual. Her name is Rachel. She loves Jesus. And she had just told Rachel about me a couple days before. Yeah. And she gave us two, like she, she told me two people, Rachel and somebody else. And she told Rachel two people, me and somebody else. But she told me about Rachel and she's like, yo, she loves Jesus.
The George Janko Show
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And so I just shot my shot and just sent her a DM like, Hey, one day told me at the, at the time, uh, Nikkei went by one day. But she was like, I was like, hey, one day told me about you. How are you doing? Very straightforward. Just to start a conversation. It clicked. We started talking about the Lord in the DMs. Like we were just talking. Then it transferred to texting.
The George Janko Show
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And then our first FaceTime was four hours long. And then I got off the FaceTime. I was like, God, this is my wife. And then we went on our first date in Atlanta. It was like the best day ever. Didn't want her to leave. Then I went to Houston. I asked her parents if I could date her because I just want to be respectful to them. Like she has the best parents.
The George Janko Show
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And then it clicked and we got married like in 2021. So we met in 2019, December, got married in May 20th, 2021. So it was kind of quick.
The George Janko Show
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Y'all are going to meet them. Memphis and Rocky, the best. Are they here tonight? Yeah, they're there tonight.
The George Janko Show
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Dude, she talks me off of a ledge of bad decisions so many times.
The George Janko Show
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She talks me off that stupid ledge. Don't send that text.
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She's like, don't say that. don't say that I'm telling you just say that you're cooked yeah like that's not good don't say that Chris or hey he's right like if somebody checks me like he's right Chris I'm like fair you're a real one you definitely love me um yeah dude does it make you feel braver in life
The George Janko Show
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yes doesn't it yes it's really weird i don't know why i thought i was a really brave dude when i was single nah i was you become a warrior dude i don't know me too i had no idea i had no idea look at me like it's even the little stuff she's like you look great don't worry you got this okay like little stuff man like or like hey that show was crazy that set was so good and i'm like in my head like i sucked like it was so bad she's like no like it was crazy promise you know it might be you can trust her word you know it
The George Janko Show
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That could have been a proverb probably, but yeah.
The George Janko Show
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But then in Proverbs, it'll be like, but a bad woman.
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And then when I got to that part, like carrying bucks to shame, father, I'm saying your name so far from it. It just felt like, like the spirit started flowing through every line. And, um, and that song got done that night. And right when I thought I had no more time, it was 2 AM and I had to finish this record. And God just gave it to us, man. So I'm so thankful. Shout out to Ace.
The George Janko Show
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yeah i mean no i do care about what she thinks for sure um and then her my music i'll always like play her a record i did it last night at three in the morning i was like hey listen to this song because i had made one late late last night i was like is it good she's like bobbing in her sleep this is a good song you know i just trust her you know um would be nowhere without my wife bro i just i think i would have been a b class music maker without her she brings depth to my life you know
The George Janko Show
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She got there when I was signed, but I wasn't announced. I wasn't public with the label. I didn't have a platform. So very beginning. So she was there from the beginning. Wow.
The George Janko Show
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I go on at 9 at the Novo in LA. It's going to be amazing.
The George Janko Show
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I pray. I jump up and down before I hop on a stage. I need to stretch more because it's 31 shows or 32. I hang out with my boys. I hang out with my wife. I talk to the team. I mean, I'm chilling. I'm just I'm low maintenance. I don't do too much. I do vocal warm up sometimes to keep my voice protected. But yeah, it's chill.
The George Janko Show
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Yeah, I mean, singing-wise, it came when I started recording. I found auto-tune. I said, oh, maybe I have more bravery. And then I realized I actually had a singing voice. And then, yeah. And then Rachel's dad connected me with a vocal coach who really taught me how to protect my voice because I was losing my voice every show.
The George Janko Show
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No, my mom does. My mom has them. My mom was a singer, and she, yeah, that happened to my mom.
The George Janko Show
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Really? Did you get the surgery or did you just get the therapy?
The George Janko Show
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I have extra empathy for it, bro, because I watched my mom go through it and it broke my heart. I feel like I sing.
The George Janko Show
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Yeah. I feel like I'm singing homage to my mom. She'll be there tonight, too. I mean, it just breaks my heart. But at the same time, I get to live out something that is not dead. I'm still going. Actually, you know what's crazy? My mom sang at my baptism and her voice came out for the baptism.
The George Janko Show
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I got baptized twice. I want to get baptized again when I got really close to the Lord. And my mentor, Doug, was like, listen, man, I'm about to keep you under this water for a long time because this is a watery grave. You're leaving back your old man. You're leaving back who you were and you're burying that guy. And literally, like, I'm at the beach where I would go to spend time with the Lord.
The George Janko Show
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So I get dunked at East Beach, St. Simon's Island in South Georgia. And it was the most beautiful thing ever.
The George Janko Show
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Shout out to Forest. I had no idea the song was going to be what it is. Like, it's crazy, man. It's about to go gold, like, in the summer. I can't even believe it. Wow, congratulations. I'm from Brunswick, Georgia. This doesn't make any sense to me. I'm like, what's going on?
The George Janko Show
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I'll never be the same, man. I know some people say baptism is just a symbol, but it does feel like something happens, man. You know?
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1,000%. All I know is I experienced him. It's a positioning of the heart. I got out the water and the tears ran. I was weeping from his goodness, man.
The George Janko Show
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This has been phenomenal. Thank you guys for having me.
The George Janko Show
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You know what's cool about you, bro? Both of you guys, like, you'll literally, like, speak your ideas. And then they'll actually, you'll go do them and it happens. But you'll put it on wax on the podcast. Like, I've seen the Christian Avengers thing. You were like, hey. It was just an idea. You were like, in the podcast, like, yo, I have this idea of, like, the Christian Avengers.
The George Janko Show
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I'm like, this is live. Like, he's doing this right now. You just said it. I was like, what is this? This is crazy. And then it happened.
The George Janko Show
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yeah georgie truly has the you know like powers on your tongue he speaks things you're like in the prophet mode like the prophecy mode like you the gift of prophecy have you ever thought about that bro like you kind of do move i'm not talking about no manifestation i'm talking about the gift of prophecy bro i i i think i'm at a place where i'm just trying to show everybody that uh
The George Janko Show
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Man, I was in the middle. I was trying to kind of be both. I loved, like, Lil Yachty and just the SoundCloud waves. So I would, like... make music that had God's name in it, but also was just fun. But then it got to a point where the Lord got my heart, bro. I felt like I had to have a mission in the music where it wasn't worth making. You know what I mean?
The George Janko Show
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I don't even think y'all know what God's going to do in you guys. I mean that. I just don't think y'all even have a glimpse, honestly.
The George Janko Show
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No, I feel you. You know, you got to be careful sometimes to not become the guy who you almost try to crown yourself as a follower of Jesus. Like, it's almost like I'm the crowned follower. We can't do that. Like, you know, actually, what's funny in our world, in the Christian rap world, a lot of rappers and stuff, there would sometimes be this desire to be, like, the next Lecrae.
The George Janko Show
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Like, who's going to be the next guy? And I started realizing, like, that's not from God. Like, why don't we just move as a unit together, all as sons, as you said, piles of dust, who just get really excited about God, and we all just move together, you know? Yeah, bro.
The George Janko Show
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You know what I mean? Because I feel like it's really cool because you can see the fruit of God in what y'all do. Whereas sometimes the devil will hand people a platform and you can tell by the fruit. You know what I mean? Like of their life, the fruit of like, sure, you have fans, but look at the fruit of your life. Whereas with y'all, it's like.
The George Janko Show
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We're going to be great. I just am thankful to be here. And, you know, man, just pray the Lord keeps blessing you guys, man, and using y'all.
The George Janko Show
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Dude, I can't wait. And bro, thank y'all for just even listening to the music. Like it, you know, being an artist, you literally can't do it without people listening and championing and supporting. And it means the world to me. So thank you guys. Yeah, we're huge fans, bro. We're going to be front row. It's about to be up. It's about to be lit.
The George Janko Show
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You said it now, bro. Yeah, it's going to happen. This is round two.
The George Janko Show
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I can't wait. And then we can get, bro, we can make Cliff a rapper. Yes.
The George Janko Show
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I was lying to you. Do you think he would freestyle?
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He starts, he's like... Yeah, I was about to say. You ran over here, clipped it.
The George Janko Show
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Imagine just randomly hearing Cliff be like, all right, Lord. Yeah.
The George Janko Show
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Yeah, I mean, it honestly came from discipleship. Like when I was 16, I went on a mission trip to Memphis, Tennessee. And my whole life I grew up in church, but I never saw what I read in the Bible. And I went on this trip and I saw things that I read. I saw a man with six infused vertebraes in his back, healed right in front of me.
The George Janko Show
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Bro, you're bringing clarity to my own journey right now, bro. I hope you understand that.
The George Janko Show
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I saw a woman demon-possessed healed right in front of me, and I'm like, what is going on? On that trip, I heard Jesus speak to my heart, and he said, follow me. I broke down crying because my whole life I always tried to get Jesus to follow me. I always tried to be enough. I tried to invite Jesus in my heart a hundred times, and then I realized that his grace was calling after me.
The George Janko Show
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He wanted me to come after him. And so I took that and it just bled into the music. Honestly, I was 16 years old. But then like when I got to college, I just remember like the Lord challenged me to delete everything I made and to take a new path. And I believe that that experience in Memphis marked my heart because I could never unsee what I saw.
The George Janko Show
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I can never take away the experience that I had with Jesus in that room. And so my music could never be the same. You know what I mean?
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No, no, no, you're not. This is clear. That's lovely, George. I love it for a real gift to be around.
The George Janko Show
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I think trying to keep that heart is the new obstacle because... I'm going from a year and a half ago playing 200 cap rooms to now it's like 1,500 people in a room. Now I'm feeling, you know, there's more success, there's more money, there's more allure of the world. And I think that's just the honest challenge I think artists face, and I definitely face it.
The George Janko Show
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But, bro, I ain't going to lie, I have my wife right by my side. And I think... Listen, like I bring my wife and my two boys with me on this tour. 32 shows. They've been on the tour bus. And I think God is teaching me that. Y'all know that verse. It's like there's nothing. There's no temptation that he can't pull you out of. Like there's always a way out.
The George Janko Show
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Yeah, it's like I think that when I look at my life, I'm like, no, God, you've given me every way to stay pure. And I think having my wife and my two boys is protecting me from those obstacles. I think another one I'm fighting through and I'm learning and I'm growing, and shout out to Lecrae for helping me through this, is just the bitterness of the music industry.
The George Janko Show
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Because I watched John Bellion's episode, I mean... Man, it's really dark. Like, you know, the deals and the principles, the principles that the music industry adheres to are not the principles I adhere to. And so it's like really tough for me. And you could ask anybody on my tour. There's been nights where I'm just like grieving through the music industry and they pick me up.
The George Janko Show
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I had to walk out on one yesterday, didn't I, RJ? You had to walk out on a podcast? No, no, no, no. I was on Ruslan's yesterday. Yeah? And he brought up when I worked with Ciara, but he... Like the two-step Ciara? Yeah. Yeah, I did a song last year. It was amazing. But it was really funny because he brought up something that fans found controversial.
The George Janko Show
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I have a team around me lifting me up, encouraging me. Like, hey, man, no man can ruin your career. No man can ruin your life. It's in God's hands. That's what Lecrae just texted me the other night. And so for me, it's like I'm remembering that. And so that's been another challenge.