Hunter Biden

But what I realized is that my real faith is in that belief, is that just do the next right thing.

That's the, whether it's the golden rule,

And that doesn't mean you have to be weak in your empathy, but always be, uh, compassionate.

I believe in the perennial philosophy.

I believe that same exact message from the Upanishads to, uh, the, the Gospels of Jesus Christ are all at base in terms of the red letter words of each of them are saying the same thing.

And I think that there are certain people that arrive at certain times that are messengers of that.

And for instance, I certainly don't agree with the Catholic Church on a lot of stuff.

I certainly have a...

Uh, but I tell you what, I really am so proud of Pope Francis and now Pope Leo in terms of just the notion of social justice.

Um, and, uh, and.

I think that there can be a practical application of that in terms of our leadership.

I really do.

I think that faith that is used as a cudgel is really, really dangerous.

I think that...

I know a lot of people that I personally love and very close to that are part of an evangelical church, particularly in the African-American community, but that are horrified by...

the complicity of the, of the, of a certain section of the evangelical church and what's happening in the world today.

So to me, my faith is very personal, rooted in, in, uh,

it's rooted in Catholicism, uh, and it's rooted in, uh, the society of Jesus, the Jesuit church in particular, which I, you know, they used to always call it the black Pope until we finally got a Jesuit Pope.

That's, you know, and with the, with the eyes wide open to that, um, the church is as, uh, as an institution is incredibly flawed and had been, but it, um,

Yeah.