Hunter Biden

You were always into it.

From the time I was a kid, yeah.

And I think the truth of the matter is that I never had the courage to do it.

I mean, it takes a lot of courage.

And people may think that that's an exaggeration, but to put yourself out there through whatever creative process that you're, like, privately engaged in, you know, I mean, it takes a lot, you know what I mean?

It's like, you know, I'm always amazed by people that can get up and dance in front of other people.

I was never that guy.

But I really mean it.

I mean, instead of seeing it as like, oh, they're goofy, I look at them and I go, God, I wish I could do that.

Well, one of the things that I knew that I loved to do, but I didn't ever have the courage to do openly.

I mean, openly in the sense of like share it with beyond, you know, my brother was to paint and to write.

No kidding.

Yeah.

When did you start that?

Oh, since I was a kid, a little kid.

Yeah.

I mean, I think my aunt always used to tell me this story that my mom, my birth mom, said that I was the poet and Beau was the politician.

And so, maybe that was ingrained in me through that kind of a thing, but that was... And I think that I denied myself that.

And so, by the way, you know, so I went to Georgetown

And Georgetown was okay, but I had a, everybody gets a Jesuit when you move in to your freshman dorm, a Jesuit lives on your floor, a guy named Ted Dziak.