Hunter Biden

And people would come in and I'd figure out how to get them groceries or go advocate for them to get their, you know, their utilities turned back on or make sure their kids could get to somewhere with heat until we figured it out.

and then I did that for a year, and that's where I met my first wife, and we had Naomi shortly after that.

Yeah, she was also a volunteer.

She was in there.

Yeah, and then Naomi, and then I,

kind of realized that we're about to have a baby, and $80 a month wasn't going to cut it.

That's what you made as a volunteer.

Now you got to live rent-free in a house with other volunteers, but you got $80 a month, and everybody pulled their money for groceries.

And even in 1992, $80 a month was pretty... Pretty rough, huh?

Pretty rough.

But it was amazing, it was an amazing experience.

And, but then I went to, I decided I needed to go to law school, to go back to school.

And so I went to, I applied to two places.

My brother was at Syracuse and I applied to Syracuse because they had a famous program for, writing program at Syracuse.

And two schools, one was University of Iowa,

program and Syracuse's program.

And so I got into that writing program.

But then I also got into Georgetown Law School and Duke.

And I didn't know how I would be able to have a baby.

I was 23.