Hunter Biden

in and outside of government.

It was the idea that you could, uh, the way in which you could use your influence to be able to do good things for good people.

And so, one of the case studies that we used for that was the creation of PEPFAR.

in the um in the way in which you had bipartisan support to institute a policy which eventually um has saved over 25 million lives wow and um and i taught that class for four years and um and then my dad went for the uh for president lost and then obama picked him to be um

uh to be vice president and in so doing he had a group of people that i find to be really distasteful and hypocrites but they uh uh they you know they said that i needed to uh uh

these give up my because it was you know i was working for these universities but i was assisting them both in the legal and the policy perspective and lobbying to help them get money to do these programs and you know so you know it was you know i was a lobbyist and um and so

I voluntarily, but with a lot of pressure from them, none from my dad, had to give up that business.

And so I basically started back in square one.

And I started a consulting firm because I also stepped down from the board of Amtrak because they said that that was a conflict of interest.

And they were concerned that it was a conflict of interest.

So you had to shut pretty much everything down.

And I had to rebuild.

And I didn't have any savings.

Three girls, all private school at the time, and, you know, don't have any money.

And so, anyway, regardless, not in any different position than a lot of people, is I had to figure it out again.

And so what I did is I started a consulting company, but mainly focused on infrastructure in rail, because I knew a lot about rail by this point, having served on the board of Amtrak for as long as I did.

And there was a lot of potential private projects that were going on that have all fizzled out over the years.

But I represented a really old, large, Midwestern infrastructure firm, like guys who actually dig the tunnels and build the rails.

and i uh and i and i advise them from you know projects in anywhere from baltimore to you know beijing if they were interested um uh with just an understanding of how the process works and so that was i that was what i did i was consulting on basically infrastructure projects and things like that and then um and then i began to consult um uh for

groups that were looking to raise capital.