Hunter Biden

Behind a microphone.

And it's really driven me crazy at times.

When I was the enemy.

But I wanted to talk to you about those things.

And anything else you want to talk about?

Yeah.

So thank you for letting me talk about that or asking me about it.

And I really mean it.

It's one of the things that traps people.

I can only speak about myself, but I think that people that are addicts or that are in recovery, also you find out really fast is that you're not as terminally unique as you think you are.

And one of the things that...

that is really important about addicts talking to each other and talking about it is that realization.

Because one of the things that traps you in your addiction is shame.

And, you know, you, you like me are, um,

are Catholic, and we have learned that guilt is an appropriate emotion.

Guilt is an appropriate response to something when you've done something wrong.

And you're supposed to atone for it.

And you're supposed to seek forgiveness, whether the forgiveness comes from an individual or not.

That's the lesson, is that it is only through seeking that forgiveness can you release yourself from that guilt.

that's appropriate.