Hunter Nelson

And which is an instinct I wish I had in my 20s and earlier.

I was.

I think a lot about 70s artists' transition into the 80s, because I love a lot of musicians that...

didn't handle that transition very well um also like a big touchstone even though it went very differently uh is it was neil young for this because neil has uh thorny discography in the 70s and 80s and he uh

put out a bunch of records that upset his record label in the 80s and experimented a lot.

I was fascinated with Donovan in particular, because Donovan is, even though I like Donovan a lot, considered an also-ran because of the scene of him getting dissed by Bob Dylan in Don't Look Back.

He also, I think, had a weird transition into the late 70s.

And Garrett Solomon is supposed to be someone that was kind of an also-ran from the jump.

I don't think he got as big as Neal or even Donovan.

Dustin, I hope you don't mind me interviewing you from my outdoor headquarters right now.

I don't mind at all.

It's a good reason to be outside.

So I just wanted to talk to you a little bit about this little collaboration we got to do.

All your wonderful songs you wrote for The Completist.

And just to start with, do you remember how I first brought you into this project?

When was the first thing you heard about this?

Yes, and I do feel like very quickly when I realized, you know, we didn't have to explain the reference points that might be involved in this guy's life, I was like, oh, this is the perfect person to... There's a lot of conversations we won't have to have.

That's right, that's right.

And so then...

The line from that to the songs, the two and a half songs, are 2.75 songs you provided for this piece.