Ian Cherrington

Often, it's useful language, but often that comes from a grievance from the past, some run-in or issue that they might have had.

But they've become more embedded into the view that... So when it comes to any challenges, from any legal challenges or authority challenges like that, they react differently.

in a certain way.

Here you've had some cases, the geography's different.

People can almost live off Greece.

It's such a huge country.

So in some ways they can end up doing that without ever seeing anyone for months or years.

There are cases in America where

Sovereign citizens have planned sort of what you describe, lone actor attacks, things like that.

So it has happened in America.

UK and here, it appears to be a reaction to a challenge.

So the authority challenges them and then they react violently.

But these things evolve.

So it is a concerning thing.

They tend to be older men, you know, rather than young people generally.

As I say, the grievance is still there.

But it's not necessarily all about lone actors where I describe this idea of going out in a blaze of glory.

It might happen, yes.

It might evolve.

But often it's this idea of a flashpoint where the challenge comes in.