Ian Cherrington

Yeah, but I mean, you know, this is unavoidable.

But their reaction to it is extreme, isn't it?

So in many ways, the processes are there.

They're just reordered a little bit.

But when I talk about tipping points and flashpoints with lone actors, that's where the crossover kind of sits.

Because it might be a challenge, but it might also be something that's happened to them in their life, which has made them deteriorate and become more volatile,

Or it might be something that they're watching play out on TV.

Do you see what I mean?

Much of it is still there, but I personally have not seen cases in great detail where they're sort of planning the sort of lone actor attack type thing.

But it doesn't mean it doesn't happen or can't evolve that way.

But that's why I think it's worth categorizing it slightly differently.

I think generally it's about understanding this, what I'm describing, I think is the best way.

It's about, for me, over the years, I've sort of realized that the best way to reach people, because I've trained people in this, in law enforcement and wider than that, is to tune people in.

There's a lot of information goes around, and particularly if you're a police officer, say you're a police constable, you've got a million things to worry about.

What I'm interested in is tuning people in enough that they would see it.

You know, they connect the dots because they've heard an input or a training input or something like that.

Or they've, you know, and this is the same for the community really, is that if you see things, it's a bit like, I always sort of try and, you know, let's take the example of, there was a big thing in London.

We had a lot of bombings back, you know, 20 years ago or so.

And there's always this kind of, if you see a bag,

You know, you get the announcements, don't you?