Ian Cherrington

Sometimes newspapers, and I'm sure you have that here as well.

It's kind of tuned people into that.

They'll go, there's a bag over there and there's no one here, you know.

And I remember riding the tube after the 2005 bombings in London, the 7-7 bombings.

And that happened on one of the train.

It was the day after.

And, you know, the people were shouting about that bag.

It was nothing in it.

But it's kind of, it's the being tuned in so that you see it.

If you've never heard of this or you've never thought about how it happens or what you might see,

You're not going to react.

But what I'm trying to do here is to make some of these warning signs a little bit like that bag.

So it doesn't matter if you're a police officer or you work for an agency or just a member of the community because it's not as simple as...

it being a police problem, it stretches back.

And so if you know someone or even if you don't and you hear them talking about this sort of thing, it's the equivalent of that unattended bag.

You pick up the phone, you go online, you call the police or you call someone or you tell somebody, maybe you tell friend, parents, family, whatever, you're online and someone's talking like this.

That's the way I would see it.

Because most, like the bag, most of the time it's nothing.

Yeah.

But this is like a metaphorical, right?