Ian Madigan

I think as a team, we're caught in between systems and multiple systems at that.

So if you look at the Leinster defensive system, one of their real key pillars is counter-rooking.

So by counter-rooking,

you're not necessarily going to get the same amount of turnovers as a poached threat team, a team that's just looking to target the ball on the ground.

But what it does give you is it significantly slows down the opposition rook ball.

Exactly.

And the difference is with the poach, you have a split second to get on the ball.

You've either won the space or you haven't.

But if you haven't, you're cleared out within a second.

Whereas if you're a counter-rook team, the goal is to drive over the other side of the rook and present the ball for your own scrum half.

That doesn't happen too often, but that's the best possible outcome.

The goal of it is to slow the opposition ruck ball down.

And what does that do?

It gives your teammates, the other defenders, time to get set.

Time to get set allows you to get your spacing right and allows you to get off the line really quickly in a cohesive fashion.

Ireland are a poaching team.

And with that, look, we, we had some success.

I think we'd maybe three or four turnovers throughout the game, but even those turnovers that we got, we didn't make much use of them.

We, we didn't the way, like when we turned the ball over to France, they punished us because that's what they're conditioned to do.

And they're playing with Toulouse and Bordeaux.