Ian Madigan

And that then gives you real impact off the bench with one of the starting back row.

It would probably be Josh who would move to the bench.

I quite like that as a tactic.

Now, look, I don't try and get the team off the guys or anything like that, but it wouldn't surprise me if we see a surprise in the team.

Yeah, they're a good side with good individuals.

Do I think they play well as a team?

Not particularly.

Do I think they have a clear identity outside of having a strong scrum, a good maul and speed on the edges?

I'm not like blown away by them.

And, and I think with, with Porter coming back in, that's really important.

Clarkson's had a great season.

I think the scrum, yeah, we might be one or two penalties down on the ledger, but I don't see it being a South African landslide that we saw earlier in this year.

Um,

Ollivon and Ribbons are their key forwards outside of that.

Abadie is a very good defensive line-out operator.

And then in the backs, you know, we spoke about Brex being the key guy.

Albernaz as a 10 is a really tidy player.

Runs the ball well.

He...

He wouldn't be the best strategist out there, but good athlete, gets good, very strong pass for the ball.