Ian McIntyre

timeline because they got so many 20s something players back but I mean this is this could it could be seven years ago I hope it isn't I won't still be covering the team if it's seven years when they go back to the playoffs but

Let's just be realistic about what's being undertaken here.

Well, I thought it was interesting, and I agree with you.

It's different than what we've heard.

I think trying to...

to dig through it a little bit.

I mean, I think that the organization, the people who are in charge feel that, yeah, Pedersen has been a disappointment.

He's been an enigma.

I know that, you know, his testing scores and the kind of condition that he's put himself in to play hockey has been as alarming to some as his actual production has

that he's not really given himself the best chance to be a first-line, a legitimate first-line NHL center.

But I also think there's been, he's put a lot of pressure on himself, Pedersen has.

You know, who knows?

We're never really truly going to know what that dynamic was like in the dressing room.

I tend to think that the conflict between Miller and Pedersen

was very real, but not as horrendous as maybe some people think.

But I also think that maybe the overall dysfunction of the group and leadership and the disharmony in the room is maybe worse than what people realized overall.

In any case, there's been a lot of criticism of Patterson.

I think a lot of different people have wanted different things from him.

And what I saw, what I interpret from Ryan Johnson's comment today about him is they're just trying to be supportive.

And Ryan said, I believe it was his last press conference a couple weeks ago, that he's wiping away expectations.