Ian Millhiser
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You could be thrown in jail if you are held in contempt.
But those contempt orders are enforced by the Department of Justice.
Marshal Service, which is an arm of the Department of Justice, that will come and take you to jail if a judge orders you jailed if you're thrown in contempt.
So there's sort of this standoff going right now where you've got โ the Trump administration is violating all kinds of court orders.
As I said, like one judge counted more than 90 court orders that are being violated.
In theory, like a judge could order the head of ICE thrown in jail.
But is the Justice Department actually going to enforce this order?
So there's a bit of a harrowing dance going on right now where judges are trying to pressure the Trump administration to comply.
And in some cases that succeeded.
There was one judge who got someone released because he ordered the director of ICE to show up in court and explain himself.
And that was enough to get ICE to say, OK, we'll release that one person.
But at some point, I think these judges have to worry about if they push as hard as they would push against a private litigant, is the Justice Department at some point going to throw up both of its middle fingers and say, well, we're just not going to enforce that order.
So perhaps unsurprisingly, Julie Lee was fired after her outburst.
She is no longer working for the Justice Department.
I don't know that I know the specific circumstances of why, but she is she's no longer there.
We wish her well, but she is not the only person leaving the DOJ.
You reported on what we can, I think, call a mass resignation in the Minnesota U.S.