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Ihor Kendiukhov

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

The problem was Euclid's fifth postulate, the parallel postulate, which states, in one of its equivalent formulations, that through any point not on a given line, there is exactly one line parallel to the given one.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

For over 2,000 years, mathematicians had felt that something was off about this postulate.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

The other, four, were short, crisp, self-evident.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

You can draw a straight line between any two points, you can extend a line indefinitely, you can draw a circle with any centre and radius, all right angles are equal.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

The fifth postulate, by contrast, was long, complicated, and felt more like a theorem that ought to be provable from the others than a foundational assumption standing on its own.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

Generation after generation of mathematicians attempted to derive it from the remaining, four, and failed.

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

Farkas Boliai begged his son to stay away.

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

J.A.

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

Noes ignored his father's advice, but not in the way Farkas feared.

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

Instead of trying to prove the postulate, he asked a question that turned the entire enterprise upside down.

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

What happens if the postulate is simply false?

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

What if you can draw more than one parallel line through a point?

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

Rather than deriving a contradiction, which would have constituted a proof of the fifth postulate by Reduccio, he found something a perfectly consistent geometry, as internally coherent as Euclid's, just describing a different kind of space.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

Loboshevsky independently reached the same conclusion around the same time.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

The parallel postulate was not wrong, exactly, but it was not necessary.

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

It was one choice among several, and the other choices led to geometries that were not merely logically valid but turned out, a century later, to describe the actual physical universe better than Euclid's flat space ever could.

LessWrong (Curated & Popular)
"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

Roughly two centuries later, people were discussing decision theories and axioms of expected utility.

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

The standard argument went roughly like this.

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

Rational agents must maximize expected utility.

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"On Independence Axiom" by Ihor Kendiukhov

The von Neumann-Morgenstern theorem proves it.