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Wow, this show is going to be incredible. So buckle up, and I'm sure you're going to enjoy it. But before we get started, I want to ask you for a favor. See, it's really, really important for me to help millions of people elevate their career, fast track to leadership, land dream roles, jump to entrepreneurship, or create portfolio careers.

And this podcast is all about enabling this for millions of people to see a map of what it actually takes for big leaders to reach success. So subscribe and download so you never miss it. Plus, it really, really helps me continue to bring amazing guests. Okay, so let's dive in. Why do we ingrain in our culture to penalize people who come forward?

And this podcast is all about enabling this for millions of people to see a map of what it actually takes for big leaders to reach success. So subscribe and download so you never miss it. Plus, it really, really helps me continue to bring amazing guests. Okay, so let's dive in. Why do we ingrain in our culture to penalize people who come forward?

Gretchen Carlson, she is a trailblazing journalist, former host of Fox News. In July 2016, she filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against the Fox News chairman and CEO Roger Ailes. Dozens of other women also stepped forward.

Gretchen Carlson, she is a trailblazing journalist, former host of Fox News. In July 2016, she filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against the Fox News chairman and CEO Roger Ailes. Dozens of other women also stepped forward.

Today, I have a really, really special episode with Gretchen Carlson. She is a trailblazing journalist, former host of Fox News, CBS. In July 2016, she filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against the Fox News chairman and CEO, Roger Ailes. Dozens of other women also stepped forward. It was incredible to see it. She won the case and received a public apology.

Today, I have a really, really special episode with Gretchen Carlson. She is a trailblazing journalist, former host of Fox News, CBS. In July 2016, she filed a sexual harassment lawsuit against the Fox News chairman and CEO, Roger Ailes. Dozens of other women also stepped forward. It was incredible to see it. She won the case and received a public apology.

Gretchen Carlson was one of the first really high publicity cases of the Me Too movement. She then decided to leverage her voice to fight for workers' rights in the workplace by co-founding the nonprofit organization Lift Our Voices. Gretchen, I am so, so, so excited to have you on the show today. I think it's going to be an epic conversation. So thank you. Thank you for having me.

Gretchen Carlson was one of the first really high publicity cases of the Me Too movement. She then decided to leverage her voice to fight for workers' rights in the workplace by co-founding the nonprofit organization Lift Our Voices. Gretchen, I am so, so, so excited to have you on the show today. I think it's going to be an epic conversation. So thank you. Thank you for having me.

Looking forward to it. Usually we take you back to your childhood and what brought you to this career. But I actually would love for you to take us to the moment when you're in Fox News. I know there's a lot that you can't talk about, but the things are piling up and there's a moment where you decide to literally, you call it, jump off the cliff on your own and file this lawsuit.

Looking forward to it. Usually we take you back to your childhood and what brought you to this career. But I actually would love for you to take us to the moment when you're in Fox News. I know there's a lot that you can't talk about, but the things are piling up and there's a moment where you decide to literally, you call it, jump off the cliff on your own and file this lawsuit.

Can you describe the situation, your workplace, where are you at with this decision? It's one of the hardest decisions in anybody's life.

Can you describe the situation, your workplace, where are you at with this decision? It's one of the hardest decisions in anybody's life.

So I decided to jump. So take me there for a second. Because again, most women do not come forward. That's just the reality. We chatted a few seconds before. Most women have sexual harassment episode in their life. Most will never have come forward with it. I am to blame as well. I never talk about these things. For me, there's a zillion things that came as fear, like they won't listen to me.

So I decided to jump. So take me there for a second. Because again, most women do not come forward. That's just the reality. We chatted a few seconds before. Most women have sexual harassment episode in their life. Most will never have come forward with it. I am to blame as well. I never talk about these things. For me, there's a zillion things that came as fear, like they won't listen to me.

I will need to prove myself. Why do I need to create trouble? At that point, you have kids, you have a husband, you have parents, you have friends. It takes a toll. And you knew that you're doing something that will definitely make it to the media, right? This is not some thing that will go away. Gretchen, talk to me for a second about the fear of going public.

I will need to prove myself. Why do I need to create trouble? At that point, you have kids, you have a husband, you have parents, you have friends. It takes a toll. And you knew that you're doing something that will definitely make it to the media, right? This is not some thing that will go away. Gretchen, talk to me for a second about the fear of going public.

That day when you did that, you were kind of pushed in the corner. You're at that point, lost your job. You don't have to, but you decide to do this. How did your family take it? Did you talk to your kids before? Because I think that's also part of it. I don't want to hurt them, right? Right, right. Talk to me a little bit because that's a fear.

That day when you did that, you were kind of pushed in the corner. You're at that point, lost your job. You don't have to, but you decide to do this. How did your family take it? Did you talk to your kids before? Because I think that's also part of it. I don't want to hurt them, right? Right, right. Talk to me a little bit because that's a fear.