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Which is also really hard. You carried a lot of weight on your shoulders at that point.

Which is also really hard. You carried a lot of weight on your shoulders at that point.

Take me to the day after, right? So your family is going away. I don't know if that's good or bad, but it's beautiful that you let that. And then you need to sit there. You don't know that it's going to become...

Take me to the day after, right? So your family is going away. I don't know if that's good or bad, but it's beautiful that you let that. And then you need to sit there. You don't know that it's going to become...

kind of your legacy and your calling and your way of changing millions of lives you didn't know that at that point I'm sure of that right so how do you take it do you cry in the corner like what do you do I would be frantic

kind of your legacy and your calling and your way of changing millions of lives you didn't know that at that point I'm sure of that right so how do you take it do you cry in the corner like what do you do I would be frantic

That's incredible. And we actually had Anne Baylor. She is the founder of Auntie Anne's Pretzels. And she talked about years of harassment that she was afraid to come forward. A few months later, the whole Me Too started and You know, it changed everything in the conversation.

That's incredible. And we actually had Anne Baylor. She is the founder of Auntie Anne's Pretzels. And she talked about years of harassment that she was afraid to come forward. A few months later, the whole Me Too started and You know, it changed everything in the conversation.

But maybe at this point, I will take you back in time because I think we need to understand this bold Gretchen that is able to do these things because I don't take it lightly. But let's go back in time. Gretchen, you grew up in a peaceful environment, right? You're already a high achiever. Talk to me a little bit about that.

But maybe at this point, I will take you back in time because I think we need to understand this bold Gretchen that is able to do these things because I don't take it lightly. But let's go back in time. Gretchen, you grew up in a peaceful environment, right? You're already a high achiever. Talk to me a little bit about that.

So you become this violin prodigy, if you will, but you do decide not to continue making that your profession. But it did come forward at the end. So talk to us a little bit about that.

So you become this violin prodigy, if you will, but you do decide not to continue making that your profession. But it did come forward at the end. So talk to us a little bit about that.

But let's talk about that because I think that's fascinating, right? Because on one hand, you grow up as this person incredibly high achiever that is really good at things, right? Like the violin, the Stanford, the Oxford, you're well known for your smarts, et cetera.

But let's talk about that because I think that's fascinating, right? Because on one hand, you grow up as this person incredibly high achiever that is really good at things, right? Like the violin, the Stanford, the Oxford, you're well known for your smarts, et cetera.

And suddenly you're this a little bit of now I'm also going to be well known for the woman that I am or what I look like, et cetera. How is the shift?

And suddenly you're this a little bit of now I'm also going to be well known for the woman that I am or what I look like, et cetera. How is the shift?

Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah.

Wow. I didn't know that. Yeah.

Yeah.

Yeah.